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Make college available for everyone for free, but make asking for and talking about degrees illegal in job interviews. Force employers to actually vet people f

Make college available for everyone for free, but make asking for and talking about degrees illegal in job interviews. Force employers to actually vet people for what they know and can do and not force otherwise capable people to jump through expensive hoops to display pseudo-signals. Not only will we be able to help people improve their skills as a society, but I bet college enrollment goes down across the board because most jobs aren’t that hard. Most jobs don’t actually need degrees, it’s just that degrees make hiring much easier.

hnuser123457 8y ago
Respectfully, you are retarded and should kill yourself.
doitLP 8y ago
> Force employers to actually vet people for what they know and can do How do you propose to do that? At least with developers you can make the candidate do some toy project or whiteboard but that process is woefully flawed and controversial. That’s tech, but what if you’re hiring for something more abstract, like Human Resources or sales? What if you just need a person who can learn quickly and is easy to work with? Almost every job I was in changed significantly within a year of being there. New tasks, new responsibilities, new teams. I grew with the changes or I left when I wanted a change. Screening upfront for specific skills only in all but the most narrow jobs will have limited usefulness. It seems to me the best way to accomplish this is to have a clear statement of the role, provide excellent on-boarding and make hiring and firing much easier, so you can quickly end a relationship that’s not definitely not working.
- swiftcoder 8y ago
  > make hiring and firing much easier, so you can quickly end a relationship that’s not definitely not working. Firing is already pretty darn easy in most states. At will employment is pretty much designed to accomplish that.
anewhnaccount2 8y ago
Clearly yours is an unpopular opinion, but I often find myself similarly minded. To me, there should definitely be places/institutions of learning, but I think a lot of problems come from the bundling of learning, assessment (not including formative assessment, which is a teach tool) and qualification. Perhaps a decoupling could ease us into a situation where where the institutions help people engage in lifelong study alongside work, since the idea that the qualification is a prerequisite has been removed.

hnuser123457 8y ago

Respectfully, you are retarded and should kill yourself.

doitLP 8y ago

> Force employers to actually vet people for what they know and can do How do you propose to do that? At least with developers you can make the candidate do some toy project or whiteboard but that process is woefully flawed and controversial. That’s tech, but what if you’re hiring for something more abstract, like Human Resources or sales? What if you just need a person who can learn quickly and is easy to work with? Almost every job I was in changed significantly within a year of being there. New tasks, new responsibilities, new teams. I grew with the changes or I left when I wanted a change. Screening upfront for specific skills only in all but the most narrow jobs will have limited usefulness. It seems to me the best way to accomplish this is to have a clear statement of the role, provide excellent on-boarding and make hiring and firing much easier, so you can quickly end a relationship that’s not definitely not working.

swiftcoder 8y ago
> make hiring and firing much easier, so you can quickly end a relationship that’s not definitely not working. Firing is already pretty darn easy in most states. At will employment is pretty much designed to accomplish that.

anewhnaccount2 8y ago

Clearly yours is an unpopular opinion, but I often find myself similarly minded. To me, there should definitely be places/institutions of learning, but I think a lot of problems come from the bundling of learning, assessment (not including formative assessment, which is a teach tool) and qualification. Perhaps a decoupling could ease us into a situation where where the institutions help people engage in lifelong study alongside work, since the idea that the qualification is a prerequisite has been removed.