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I think there's a real cultural clash between NZ and the US style of politics that is readily visible in this thread. Our censors have most visibly banned a fe

by frio 8y ago

I think there's a real cultural clash between NZ and the US style of politics that is readily visible in this thread. Our censors have most visibly banned a few videogames in their time, but as an office, I think most kiwis accept the role they have in society and are happy for them to do their job. The political fearmongering about Government overreach that the US seems to have hasn't fully infected us yet; we still kinda like our Government and aren't particularly afraid of them. I hope that stays true, it seems like a happier and more relaxed way to live. That said, possession, distribution and (I believe!) consumption of objectionable material are all considered an offence. The cops and the courts exercise discretion here.

tathougies 8y ago
> The political fearmongering about Government overreach that the US seems to have hasn't fully infected us yet; we still kinda like our Government and aren't particularly afraid of them. I hope that stays true, it seems like a happier and more relaxed way to live. Nah. The most relaxed way to live is knowing your government won't arrest you because you watched a video before it was declared illegal.
erentz 8y ago
> That said, possession, distribution and (I believe!) consumption of objectionable ... cops and the courts exercise discretion here. There likely is discretion involved and the law probably needs some updating. The DIA website on this [1] makes it clear their concern is really around collection and "trade" of objectionable material. Not random people accidently viewing it (or even curious rubberneckers going for a look). It was much easier in a time when the law was largely written, and obtaining objectionable material meant having an actual physical copy. You most likely knew you were getting an objectionable DVD or book because you had to go to a back alley to buy it off a guy. The law couldn't anticipate people opening Facebook to find an autoplaying video of a massacre, hence why you're right wrt discretion that's probably in use now. [1] https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-and-the-Internet https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-and-the-Internet
sampo 8y ago
> it seems like a happier and more relaxed way to live. This is striking below the belt and I apologize, but: I am sure a Chinese citizen would say the same. In public. When their government is monitoring.
- frio 8y ago
  Perhaps just a wee bit ;). If they are: hi Rebecca, despite you seeming onto it the last time we met, you really should offer your resignation.

by frio 8y ago

tathougies 8y ago

> The political fearmongering about Government overreach that the US seems to have hasn't fully infected us yet; we still kinda like our Government and aren't particularly afraid of them. I hope that stays true, it seems like a happier and more relaxed way to live. Nah. The most relaxed way to live is knowing your government won't arrest you because you watched a video before it was declared illegal.

erentz 8y ago

> That said, possession, distribution and (I believe!) consumption of objectionable ... cops and the courts exercise discretion here. There likely is discretion involved and the law probably needs some updating. The DIA website on this [1] makes it clear their concern is really around collection and "trade" of objectionable material. Not random people accidently viewing it (or even curious rubberneckers going for a look). It was much easier in a time when the law was largely written, and obtaining objectionable material meant having an actual physical copy. You most likely knew you were getting an objectionable DVD or book because you had to go to a back alley to buy it off a guy. The law couldn't anticipate people opening Facebook to find an autoplaying video of a massacre, hence why you're right wrt discretion that's probably in use now. [1] https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-and-the-Internet https://www.dia.govt.nz/Censorship-and-the-Internet

sampo 8y ago

> it seems like a happier and more relaxed way to live. This is striking below the belt and I apologize, but: I am sure a Chinese citizen would say the same. In public. When their government is monitoring.

frio 8y ago
Perhaps just a wee bit ;). If they are: hi Rebecca, despite you seeming onto it the last time we met, you really should offer your resignation.