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I deeply question the value of FB's existence in its current form for many reasons, but given its size and influence, I'm not so naive to think that it's going

I deeply question the value of FB's existence in its current form for many reasons, but given its size and influence, I'm not so naive to think that it's going away anytime soon. I chose years ago to stop using Facebook and encouraging others to do the same. I truly believe the absolute best thing FB could do for society would be to dissolve, but that's not realistic.

CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
So... you propose nothing, then? Or at least, you didn't really answer the question that was asked. What would you suggest as a solution to the problems stated? These problems are larger than just Facebook.
- save_ferris 8y ago
  Choosing not support or engage with such an ethically compromised platform is a solution. Why do we carry around this mentality that everything can just be fixed? When did the idea of "maybe X thing shouldn't exist in our society" become such a foreign idea? Facebook is only valuable because people use it.
  - CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
    If Facebook was Thanos snapped out of existence right now, the overarching problem would still exist. It's not constrained to the borders of a single Mountain View, CA company. How would you address the problem itself, rather than a single instance of it?
  - ng12 8y ago
    Facebook is a microcosm of the internet as a whole. The "X thing" here is a global decentralized network, not social media.
- Diederich 8y ago
  Seems asked and answered to me: > What do you suggest at this point? > I truly believe the absolute best thing FB could do for society would be to dissolve, but that's not realistic. I take 'not realistic' to mean that it's not going to happen, which is accurate.
  - CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
    "Not using Facebook" doesn't solve address the problem which exists outside of Facebook, so no, it wasn't answered.
    - Diederich 8y ago
      Well, I asked the question, and I consider his response an answer. Yes, these problems exists outside of FB. Yes, I'm sure the other poster is acknowledging very little if anything would change if FB disappeared, over a nominal time horizon. I personally think FB and the other social media sites are doing more good than harm, so I disagree with the other poster's overall assessment. One way or another, there are no clear or known paths that are reasonably possible away from this kind of situation.
      - CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
        > Well, I asked the question, and I consider his response an answer. It's non sequitur at best, but technically an answer, sure. I'm more interested in something tangible and (hopefully) universifiable than "delete Facebook".
        Diederich 8y ago
        > I'm more interested in something tangible and (hopefully) universifiable than "delete Facebook". I am as well, believe me. I just don't think any are available, at least at the moment.
basch 8y ago
Do you feel the same way about telephones and web browsers. Because telephone companies cant pre-censor conversation...they dont have value. Because web browsers dont block objectionable content from reaching other peoples comp...they dont have value. I find it absurd to say that facebook has no value to people because it cant screen everything for worth before its posted. That said, sure why does something being posted have to be instantly visible without first meeting some criteria. What's wrong with a small buffer?
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CiPHPerCoder 8y ago

So... you propose nothing, then? Or at least, you didn't really answer the question that was asked. What would you suggest as a solution to the problems stated? These problems are larger than just Facebook.

save_ferris 8y ago
Choosing not support or engage with such an ethically compromised platform is a solution. Why do we carry around this mentality that everything can just be fixed? When did the idea of "maybe X thing shouldn't exist in our society" become such a foreign idea? Facebook is only valuable because people use it.
- CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
  If Facebook was Thanos snapped out of existence right now, the overarching problem would still exist. It's not constrained to the borders of a single Mountain View, CA company. How would you address the problem itself, rather than a single instance of it?
- ng12 8y ago
  Facebook is a microcosm of the internet as a whole. The "X thing" here is a global decentralized network, not social media.
Diederich 8y ago
Seems asked and answered to me: > What do you suggest at this point? > I truly believe the absolute best thing FB could do for society would be to dissolve, but that's not realistic. I take 'not realistic' to mean that it's not going to happen, which is accurate.
- CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
  "Not using Facebook" doesn't solve address the problem which exists outside of Facebook, so no, it wasn't answered.
  - Diederich 8y ago
    Well, I asked the question, and I consider his response an answer. Yes, these problems exists outside of FB. Yes, I'm sure the other poster is acknowledging very little if anything would change if FB disappeared, over a nominal time horizon. I personally think FB and the other social media sites are doing more good than harm, so I disagree with the other poster's overall assessment. One way or another, there are no clear or known paths that are reasonably possible away from this kind of situation.
    - CiPHPerCoder 8y ago
      > Well, I asked the question, and I consider his response an answer. It's non sequitur at best, but technically an answer, sure. I'm more interested in something tangible and (hopefully) universifiable than "delete Facebook".
      - Diederich 8y ago
        > I'm more interested in something tangible and (hopefully) universifiable than "delete Facebook". I am as well, believe me. I just don't think any are available, at least at the moment.

basch 8y ago

Do you feel the same way about telephones and web browsers. Because telephone companies cant pre-censor conversation...they dont have value. Because web browsers dont block objectionable content from reaching other peoples comp...they dont have value. I find it absurd to say that facebook has no value to people because it cant screen everything for worth before its posted. That said, sure why does something being posted have to be instantly visible without first meeting some criteria. What's wrong with a small buffer?

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