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Property rights require someone to enforce them; No, property rights and enforcement of property rights are separate things. Jury's require jurors who very of
by ynniv 16y ago
Property rights require someone to enforce them;
No, property rights and enforcement of property rights are separate things.
Jury's require jurors who very often don't want to be there. Speedy trials require judges and jurors to work efficiently, and again, not free. Protection from unreasonable search and seizure requires someone to enforce it. The right to confront your accuser requires the accuser to testify.
The inability to confront your accuser, produce jurors and promptly render a verdict results in the inability to prosecute, not the inability to have your trial heard by jury.
Protection from unreasonable search and seizure requires someone to enforce it.
This someone is the judicial system, which is (likely) the same system conducting the searches. It is again a "safe by default" system.
I was objecting to your conclusion that rights shouldn't require other people when the facts are, many of your existing rights do.
It is true that you never implied that the right to the Internet was absurd. That was a comment on the discussion at large. However your arguments that rights require the actions of others is unconvincing. My argument is that rights are a limit on the actions of others, and paid for by the agressor. When they are paid for by idle bystanders (likely through taxation), they are a form of socialist benefits and not "rights".
- gnaritas 16y ago> However your arguments that rights require the actions of others is unconvincing. As are your rebuttals.
- ynniv 16y agoI'm glad that you found a friend to upvote you, but that is a ridiculous retort. If you are going to spend the time typing a reply, you should do us the courtesy of making it worth the time everyone else spends reading it. I wonder if there is notion of wall-time in the HN codebase, with which we could only allow a reply that took at least a minute to compose.
- gnaritas 16y agoWhatever, get over yourself. I'm not here to please you.