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Email clients, word processors and video chat would be very much possible without Javascript.
by anoncake 8y ago
Email clients, word processors and video chat would be very much possible without Javascript.
- ceejayoz 8y agoEmail clients, sure. Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. Video chat seems right out, unless you're permitting a Flash solution, which would be severely cheating.
- thatfunkymunki 8y agoHe's not talking about cancerous in-browser webapps. He's talking about actual clients.
- tehlike 8y agoYou mean clients i can hardly update, and most often clunky as well? I dont see the improvement. I can use web apps on any platform without waiting for the company to do it. I refuse to install apps on my devices.
- anoncake 8y ago> You mean clients i can hardly update Yes! You dont have to update if you dont want to. Thats a feature. Of course, the rise of proprietary APIs over interoperable protocols has lessened that advantage.
- saagarjha 8y ago> You mean clients i can hardly update, and most often clunky as well? I dont see the improvement. Is better performance and more features not an improvement to you?
- tehlike 8y agoWhat more features? All can be done in javascript, without making users install garbage, without spending extra resources. I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice. What most people dont realize is web apps are a boon to linux people. Most companies would not develop for linux at all.
- saagarjha 8y ago> What more features? Support for most platform APIs? > I prefer companies spend their resources on improving the product instead of implementing same thing thrice. Funny, this is exactly my issue with web apps. I don't want to use software where the engineers have done a poor job reimplementing things the system provides for free.
- tehlike 8y agoBuild the tools to enable them. Dont blame engineers lack of experience on the language. I used libreoffice early on, was not impressed. Same story.
- anoncake 8y ago> Word processors? Only if you're requiring something like Markdown. You havent heard of LibreOffice?
- tehlike 8y agoWhy would i install some hundreds of mbs of apps when i am complaining about javascript.
- benj111 8y agoBecause you don't have the redownload libreoffice everytime you want to write something? Theres Ted if you cant stretch to libreoffice though. https://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/ https://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/
- benj111 8y agoEverything old is new again. 'offline' apps, 'local' cloud. Its the future!
- tehlike 8y agoWeb apps are boon to linux people. Most companies would not even bother developing for linux first
- benj111 8y agopersonally I havent found a webapp that I need, or even doesn't just make me think a normal app would be better. That's not to say I disagree though. The tech world is very good at creating monopolies.
- ceejayoz 8y ago> You havent heard of LibreOffice? Don't be disingenuous. The thread's about Firefox and JavaScript. It's quite clear @tehlike wasn't talking about native desktop apps, but web apps.
- swebs 8y agoYou can upload and download video streams just fine without any Javascript.
- ceejayoz 8y agoIn a browser? We're on a thread talking about Gmail (a web app) in a thread about Firefox.