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Yes, Australia and New Zealand are not the US and as such do not share its free speech laws and "free speech culture(/history)." This current situation is inter
by adamrezich 8y ago
Yes, Australia and New Zealand are not the US and as such do not share its free speech laws and "free speech culture(/history)." This current situation is interesting though because from what I can tell, there hasn't been any government action yet, just private ISPs taking action with their own infrastructure. This is all sort of uncharted territory and it seems like nobody's sure how to go about solving these complex issues, yet ISPs are taking preemptive action of their own accord. (I agree that if an ISP in the US were to do something like this, it would be one hell of a shitshow, again due to legal and cultural differences.)
With regards to the 2017 Republican baseball practice shooting, I do think there should have been more of a conversation about online radicalization after the fact. I'm not saying legal action should have taken place or ISPs should have started DNS-blocking websites, because a.) again, cultural and legal differences compared to NZ/Australia and b.) because there was no convenient scapegoat to point fingers at. When "right-wing" violence happens, it's very easy to say, "ah see! 4chan and 8ch at it again," because everyone basically agrees that those websites contain "right-wing" hatred. Yet, "left-wing" hatred is and has been, for some reason, allowed to take place on most major social media websites and discussion platforms, largely uncriticized. Plus, it's undeniable that this has dramatically increased in recent years, since about 2015 especially, for obvious reasons.
So you have blatant, largely unimpeded "left-wing" hatred allowed to happen out in the open on most of the Internet, while "right-wing" hatred is forced off mainstream platforms and onto fringe sites like Gab, 4chan, and 8ch... so when "far-right" extremists commit acts of violence, it's easy to say, "See, these fringe websites where all this hatred is being espoused? We should do something about them!," but when "far-left" extremists commit acts of violence, there's no easy targets to place the blame on, because the hatred happens just about everywhere and is for some reason considered to be more or less socially acceptable.
It's hard to argue that "radicalization" due to online information and opinion dissemination is anything but a major cause for concern and something that we should be investigating and having frank discussions about, but in order to do so, the discussions have to be actually frank and encompass the entire situation, something which few if any are willing to actually do. Our physical human forms have not evolved to intuitively grapple with the consequences of the existence of the Internet[0], yet just about everyone uses it every day. We should dig deep and really examine this at some point.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number