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TC39 definitely needs a better, clearer website for people to browse then just using github repositories. So this is quite welcomed. At the moment though there

TC39 definitely needs a better, clearer website for people to browse then just using github repositories. So this is quite welcomed. At the moment though there's nothing in it. No search capabilities or unique content and practically all links redirect to github. This isn't an MVP it's a prototype, with little value at the moment. Hopefully things will improve soon, but by shipping such a skinned down website they won't get the product launch effect again.

shakna 8y ago
There's a search [0] once you open a spec. Top left of the wiki page. And all links on a spec page appear to just be anchors to elsewhere on the page. [0] https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#menu-search-box https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#menu-search-box
- Illniyar 8y ago
  That's not part of the new website, it is part of each proposol repository (or the all spec) and existed for years as far as I can tell
  - shakna 8y ago
    > Ecma TC39, the JavaScript Standards Committee, is proud to announce that we have shipped a website [0] for following updates to the JavaScript specification. Seems to be the new website from where I'm sitting. The spec is linked from the header. It might be an old instance, but it is clearly meant to be used as part of the new. [0] https://tc39.github.io/ https://tc39.github.io/
    - Illniyar 8y ago
      That's not how github pages work. https://tc39.github.io https://tc39.github.io , which is the from the repository of the tc39 github main account is a new site. https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 , which is the github pages for the ecma262 repository, has existed since September 2015 - https://web.archive.org/web/20150929233059/https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 https://web.archive.org/web/20150929233059/https://tc39.gith...
LewisJEllis 8y ago
Product launch effect? They're a language standards committee, not a company. The entire online world already uses their product. What search capabilities are you hoping for that are currently missing?
- Illniyar 8y ago
  It's a product, and they've just launched it. The fact that they aren't a for-profit company is not really relevant. Nobody uses the product right now, and by product I mean the TS39 website. And assuming that one of the purpose of the website is to be used they'll want the site to have traffic and traction or it's just a waste of effort. Product launch can have a very big effect on future traffic - that means that many people are exposed to the site, and if it proves useful they might also start using it. As it stands no one is going to return to this site instead of going directly to the github account. "What search capabilities are you hoping for that are currently missing? " At the top of the hat, searching for specs in different stages? or by topic, or date. Without search the site can't be a location for discovery, and since it has no new content, it isn't a consumption website either. If you look at it, its basically a glorified landing page. Not something that is useful for the majority of its audience, I believe.
  - debaserab2 8y ago
    A websites doesn't have to be a product. It can just be... an informational website. Not everything that goes on the internet needs to be hyperoptimized.

shakna 8y ago

There's a search [0] once you open a spec. Top left of the wiki page. And all links on a spec page appear to just be anchors to elsewhere on the page. [0] https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#menu-search-box https://tc39.github.io/ecma262/#menu-search-box

Illniyar 8y ago
That's not part of the new website, it is part of each proposol repository (or the all spec) and existed for years as far as I can tell
- shakna 8y ago
  > Ecma TC39, the JavaScript Standards Committee, is proud to announce that we have shipped a website [0] for following updates to the JavaScript specification. Seems to be the new website from where I'm sitting. The spec is linked from the header. It might be an old instance, but it is clearly meant to be used as part of the new. [0] https://tc39.github.io/ https://tc39.github.io/
  - Illniyar 8y ago
    That's not how github pages work. https://tc39.github.io https://tc39.github.io , which is the from the repository of the tc39 github main account is a new site. https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 , which is the github pages for the ecma262 repository, has existed since September 2015 - https://web.archive.org/web/20150929233059/https://tc39.github.io/ecma262 https://web.archive.org/web/20150929233059/https://tc39.gith...

LewisJEllis 8y ago

Product launch effect? They're a language standards committee, not a company. The entire online world already uses their product. What search capabilities are you hoping for that are currently missing?

Illniyar 8y ago
It's a product, and they've just launched it. The fact that they aren't a for-profit company is not really relevant. Nobody uses the product right now, and by product I mean the TS39 website. And assuming that one of the purpose of the website is to be used they'll want the site to have traffic and traction or it's just a waste of effort. Product launch can have a very big effect on future traffic - that means that many people are exposed to the site, and if it proves useful they might also start using it. As it stands no one is going to return to this site instead of going directly to the github account. "What search capabilities are you hoping for that are currently missing? " At the top of the hat, searching for specs in different stages? or by topic, or date. Without search the site can't be a location for discovery, and since it has no new content, it isn't a consumption website either. If you look at it, its basically a glorified landing page. Not something that is useful for the majority of its audience, I believe.
- debaserab2 8y ago
  A websites doesn't have to be a product. It can just be... an informational website. Not everything that goes on the internet needs to be hyperoptimized.