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I’m using “culture” to mean “respect of democrcy, women and rule of (national, not religious) law”. Obviously some cultures are better than others (in my and m
by tomp 8y ago
I’m using “culture” to mean “respect of democrcy, women and rule of (national, not religious) law”.
Obviously some cultures are better than others (in my and many other people’s value system) - do you prefer to live in NZ or Saudi Arabia?
- pavlov 8y agoI would rather live in Saudi Arabia today than as a Maori in NZ 50 years ago. “Ah, but that was then, minorities have it better now.” So the culture (by your definition) has changed then? Perhaps thanks to immigration and globalization?
- tomp 8y agoProbably not by immigration by folks with reactionary dogmatic non-democratic beliefs... Look, the very simple fact is, religions stand in stark contrast to the liberal, enlightened Western democratic beliefs. Once the religion gets watered down enough (like mainstream Judaism and Christianity) so that it's nothing more but a set of sayings, it becomes (barely) compatible with the liberal society, but the more hardcore the beliefs (Orthodox Jews, Amish, Islam), the more problems they cause (violence, oppression of women, opposition to vaccination, etc).
- pavlov 8y agoYou're posting this in a thread which commemorates a deceased person who seems to have been the exact opposite of everything you write about. He was gunned down while practicing his religion. Yet we're supposed to believe that his religion is the problem here.
- erklik 8y agoYet we have an example of a man practising his religion and living completely ( seemingly ) compatible with the liberal society until he was gunned down. However, you are now saying that it's actually his religion that's the problem.
- dang 8y agoReligious flamewar is not welcome on Hacker News. Please do not post like this here again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: your account has recently been using HN primarily for political and ideological battle. That's a wrong turn on this site. Please correct it. This is in the guidelines as well.
- tomp 8y agook
- Slambrt 8y agoI mean if you're Muslim that's probably a real stumper right about now