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About 8 per day too many, no?

zamadatix 8y ago
Possibly, I think the noted downsides of the methodology prevent drawing any conclusions at all let alone decisively counted ones.
bacondude3 8y ago
No. Islam, and its followers, are not perfect. Why should they be totally free from criticism? Edit: Would you say it's 8 too many per day if they were trashing Trump? (or Israel, or Hillary Clinton, or anything/anybody else with faults)
manfredo 8y ago
Why should one make the blanket assumption that criticism of Islam bad? If a cleric says women should not have the right to vote, why is it a bad thing for me to criticize this Islamic cleric, and the broader trends such statements reflect? Let's be clear: there absolutely are valid reasons to be critical of Islam. It is entirely appropriate, for example, to "trash" the fact that in some regions of the word the majority of Muslims support executing those that leave the religion: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi... The undertone of the article seems to be implying that negative media coverage of Islam is reponsible for Islamaphobia. While I'm sure many people erroneous apply negative comments about trends in Islam asa whole with individual Muslims, the blanket assumption that criticism of Islam equates to Islamaphobia is also reductive and non-productive. (Deleted bit about the number of companies Murdoch owns, as it is not relevant to the study in question).
hnuser123457 8y ago
No.
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bobthechef 8y ago
Wouldn't that depend on accuracy? You're assuming here that all negative press for Islam is necessarily evil, which is false. Negative press isn't the same as bigotry. Incidentally, I would be interested in the amount of negative coverage, say, the Catholic Church gets in the media as a point of comparison, perhaps especially in the left-leaning media.
- manicdee 8y ago
  Just because you present the facts doesn’t mean you aren’t biased. Note the focus of some of these articles on individual incidents in a civil war, for example a particular group of predominantly Muslims killing a lot of Christians on a particular day. The reporter neglects to cover the other six days of the week when many more Muslims were killed by this group. Is that fair coverage? Does it appear to be accurate? Is it negative about Islam?
yakshaving_jgt 8y ago
No ideology should be protected from criticism. Real people are suffering and dying today at the hands of those with a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. By suggesting Islam should not be criticised, you are an apologist for that oppression.

Possibly, I think the noted downsides of the methodology prevent drawing any conclusions at all let alone decisively counted ones.

bacondude3 8y ago

No. Islam, and its followers, are not perfect. Why should they be totally free from criticism? Edit: Would you say it's 8 too many per day if they were trashing Trump? (or Israel, or Hillary Clinton, or anything/anybody else with faults)

manfredo 8y ago

Why should one make the blanket assumption that criticism of Islam bad? If a cleric says women should not have the right to vote, why is it a bad thing for me to criticize this Islamic cleric, and the broader trends such statements reflect? Let's be clear: there absolutely are valid reasons to be critical of Islam. It is entirely appropriate, for example, to "trash" the fact that in some regions of the word the majority of Muslims support executing those that leave the religion: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religi... The undertone of the article seems to be implying that negative media coverage of Islam is reponsible for Islamaphobia. While I'm sure many people erroneous apply negative comments about trends in Islam asa whole with individual Muslims, the blanket assumption that criticism of Islam equates to Islamaphobia is also reductive and non-productive. (Deleted bit about the number of companies Murdoch owns, as it is not relevant to the study in question).

hnuser123457 8y ago

No.

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bobthechef 8y ago

Wouldn't that depend on accuracy? You're assuming here that all negative press for Islam is necessarily evil, which is false. Negative press isn't the same as bigotry. Incidentally, I would be interested in the amount of negative coverage, say, the Catholic Church gets in the media as a point of comparison, perhaps especially in the left-leaning media.

manicdee 8y ago
Just because you present the facts doesn’t mean you aren’t biased. Note the focus of some of these articles on individual incidents in a civil war, for example a particular group of predominantly Muslims killing a lot of Christians on a particular day. The reporter neglects to cover the other six days of the week when many more Muslims were killed by this group. Is that fair coverage? Does it appear to be accurate? Is it negative about Islam?

yakshaving_jgt 8y ago

No ideology should be protected from criticism. Real people are suffering and dying today at the hands of those with a more fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. By suggesting Islam should not be criticised, you are an apologist for that oppression.