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We should still reject that ideology.

by tomlock 8y ago

alexandre_m 8y ago
We should reject most, if not all, ideologies.
- fwip 8y ago
  An ideology is just a system of values and ideas about the world. Everyone has one.
  - alexandre_m 8y ago
    To a certain extent yes, but unfortunately it's more than just a set of principles. Ideologies tend to lead to fanaticism, embracing a simplified and rigid view of social reality. I'm particularly wary of all the *-isms.
    - fabianhjr 8y ago
      I shall warn you about nonideologism -ism then.
      - alexandre_m 8y ago
        I can see that I sounded like I was one of those, but I have strong set of principles which lean toward some doctrines and yes, some ideologies in practice. My point was more to be cautious of those who are very strict from the theoretical side of the said ideologies in their purest form.
    - austhrow743 8y ago
      A person should not believe in an ism. They should believe in themself.
      - ixtli 8y ago
        If you read philosophy you'll find (happily, i think) that you're not alone in your thoughts and beliefs. Your whole mind is intertwined with thousands of years of development of those beliefs and the physical structures they created that then reinforce them. And in any case, you can't really do anything interesting alone so it's better, in my opinion, to believe in others.
- tomlock 8y ago
  Ideologies are like accents. Everyone has one. For some people, that ideology is the rejection of ideologies unconditionally.
  - InitialLastName 8y ago
    Ooh, that's good. "Everyone has one, and they all sound incomprehensible to someone else".
    - AndrewGaspar 8y ago
      As somebody with a neutral midwestern accent, I resent that statement. :)
- fabianhjr 8y ago
  That is pure ideology, good luck being "non-ideological". http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ideology http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ideology
  - ixtli 8y ago
    It's a real shame I can't directly embed a gif of Zizek sniffing here.
- ixtli 8y ago
  It's extremely dangerous to believe that its possible to not have an ideology. The idea that this is possible tends to come from whatever lets people think there's such a thing as "unbiased" or, indeed, that not applying ones biases is somehow a good goal.

We should still reject that ideology.

alexandre_m 8y ago

We should reject most, if not all, ideologies.

fwip 8y ago
An ideology is just a system of values and ideas about the world. Everyone has one.
- alexandre_m 8y ago
  To a certain extent yes, but unfortunately it's more than just a set of principles. Ideologies tend to lead to fanaticism, embracing a simplified and rigid view of social reality. I'm particularly wary of all the *-isms.
  - fabianhjr 8y ago
    I shall warn you about nonideologism -ism then.
    - alexandre_m 8y ago
      I can see that I sounded like I was one of those, but I have strong set of principles which lean toward some doctrines and yes, some ideologies in practice. My point was more to be cautious of those who are very strict from the theoretical side of the said ideologies in their purest form.
  - austhrow743 8y ago
    A person should not believe in an ism. They should believe in themself.
    - ixtli 8y ago
      If you read philosophy you'll find (happily, i think) that you're not alone in your thoughts and beliefs. Your whole mind is intertwined with thousands of years of development of those beliefs and the physical structures they created that then reinforce them. And in any case, you can't really do anything interesting alone so it's better, in my opinion, to believe in others.
tomlock 8y ago
Ideologies are like accents. Everyone has one. For some people, that ideology is the rejection of ideologies unconditionally.
- InitialLastName 8y ago
  Ooh, that's good. "Everyone has one, and they all sound incomprehensible to someone else".
  - AndrewGaspar 8y ago
    As somebody with a neutral midwestern accent, I resent that statement. :)
fabianhjr 8y ago
That is pure ideology, good luck being "non-ideological". http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ideology http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Ideology
- ixtli 8y ago
  It's a real shame I can't directly embed a gif of Zizek sniffing here.
ixtli 8y ago
It's extremely dangerous to believe that its possible to not have an ideology. The idea that this is possible tends to come from whatever lets people think there's such a thing as "unbiased" or, indeed, that not applying ones biases is somehow a good goal.