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I'm actually hoping that robocalls are the downfall of the PSTN and big telcos. They are immovable monsters and have outlived their reign in this world.

unixhero 8y ago
Except when we provide you 4g and 5g coverage, ensure societies have working critical infrastructure to communicate peer to peer and in addition gives you a nice fiber pipe to your house and handle all the carrier dealings of broadband interconnectivity. Oh yeah and tie this all together with advanced roaming deals and functionality which connects countries around the world. It's also us who pioneer and really implement GDPR and stand in the trenches for privacy governance. Telecoms are far from all that bad. But I understand why everyone hates their phone bill and of course agree that we need to act against predatory pricing, and such.
- snazz 8y ago
  > pioneer and really implement GDPR and stand in the trenches for privacy governance. And then go sell location data to all sorts of shady characters? A few examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18857220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18857220 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=phone%20location%20data&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=phone%20location%20data&sort=b... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=bounty&sort=byPopularity&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=bounty&sort=byPopularity&prefi...
  - unixhero 8y ago
    I am not advocating for US mobile operators. The world is vastly broader and greater - US cell phone carriers are just that, US carriers. My argument was the economic utility which the infrastructure a telco provides to society. Both with pipes, technology and know-how of how to operate critical infrastructure 24/7. I cannot wait for SpaceX' Starlink to become operational and we will see some disruption happening in (this) space.
- JohnFen 8y ago
  > Telecoms are far from all that bad. Speaking of US telecoms, they are simply awful and abusive companies. Yes, they provide a critical service, but they sure do take their pound of flesh for it and constantly engage in activities that are harmful to society.
  - unixhero 8y ago
    I for one was not speaking for US Telecoms whatsoever.
    - JohnFen 8y ago
      Fair enough! That's why I limited my comment to US telecoms -- they're the only ones I have any experience with.

unixhero 8y ago

Except when we provide you 4g and 5g coverage, ensure societies have working critical infrastructure to communicate peer to peer and in addition gives you a nice fiber pipe to your house and handle all the carrier dealings of broadband interconnectivity. Oh yeah and tie this all together with advanced roaming deals and functionality which connects countries around the world. It's also us who pioneer and really implement GDPR and stand in the trenches for privacy governance. Telecoms are far from all that bad. But I understand why everyone hates their phone bill and of course agree that we need to act against predatory pricing, and such.

snazz 8y ago
> pioneer and really implement GDPR and stand in the trenches for privacy governance. And then go sell location data to all sorts of shady characters? A few examples: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17081684 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18857220 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18857220 https://hn.algolia.com/?query=phone%20location%20data&sort=byPopularity&prefix&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=phone%20location%20data&sort=b... https://hn.algolia.com/?query=bounty&sort=byPopularity&prefix=false&page=0&dateRange=all&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?query=bounty&sort=byPopularity&prefi...
- unixhero 8y ago
  I am not advocating for US mobile operators. The world is vastly broader and greater - US cell phone carriers are just that, US carriers. My argument was the economic utility which the infrastructure a telco provides to society. Both with pipes, technology and know-how of how to operate critical infrastructure 24/7. I cannot wait for SpaceX' Starlink to become operational and we will see some disruption happening in (this) space.
JohnFen 8y ago
> Telecoms are far from all that bad. Speaking of US telecoms, they are simply awful and abusive companies. Yes, they provide a critical service, but they sure do take their pound of flesh for it and constantly engage in activities that are harmful to society.
- unixhero 8y ago
  I for one was not speaking for US Telecoms whatsoever.
  - JohnFen 8y ago
    Fair enough! That's why I limited my comment to US telecoms -- they're the only ones I have any experience with.