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Yes - a contact whitelist is all I want from iOS with two features: a button to temporarily allow all calls for 30min (for Uber/door dash) and the option to all

Yes - a contact whitelist is all I want from iOS with two features: a button to temporarily allow all calls for 30min (for Uber/door dash) and the option to allow a second call to come through from an unknown number if it’s within 2min of the first. All other calls should go to voicemail by default. The way Apple allows you to interact with CallKit makes this hard to implement because a blacklist of numbers is required and a blacklist of all numbers is huge.

hyperjeff 8y ago
Isn't this exact feature available via Do Not Disturb? I have DND on 24/7, and you can quickly turn it off for Lyft/etc if needed. If you make groups within your contacts you can even hone the whitelist and can fairly quickly mod it.
- fossuser 8y ago
  No - DND blocks all notifications in addition to calls which makes it not usable. I still want notifications for other things (especially text).
- avodonosov 8y ago
  I have DnD constantly too and find it convenient.
  - ryandrake 8y ago
    Not just convenient. I’ve been in DND mode all day every day for months now, and I’ve witnessed a drastically improved overall quality of life. Mostly from the lack of texts and notifications, not just from the lack of phone calls. It has also resulted in my not being glued to my phone responding to everything. I can feel my mental health improving, and I don’t think I could go back to non-DND.
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    - pard68 8y ago
      I assume dnd is no notification or signal? I have had this since high school (15 years I guess)? At the time phones weren't allowed so every day my phone had to be on silent and I never turned it off. I started working and phones weren't allowed. Then college and phones weren't allowed. I don't even know what my ring tone is and I only assume my alert messages work because my phone can play music...
- tdfx 8y ago
  DND does not direct calls to voicemail, it just keeps your phone silent and doesn't ring/vibrate while the incoming call screen is showing. I've still accidentally answered calls while in DND mode. Sometimes I just want to turn phone calls off entirely and use my phone like it's an iPod touch with a data SIM card.
mc32 8y ago
The problem is a legitimate urgent call from an unwhitelisted number. Hospital, school, fire, police, relatives, etc.
- fossuser 8y ago
  Don’t care about those - voicemail is good enough, repeated call would get through anyway. I already don’t answer numbers not in contacts (I think this is true of most people) so no real change in behavior.
  - nulbyte 8y ago
    I think most people have learned. But every now and then, I'll get a call or text from a clueless individual. They are usually blown away to learn how my number (or a random unknown number) ended up in their call log.
- mjevans 8y ago
  That's what the retry feature is. If it's truly urgent they'll call again within a short timeframe (+3 to +300 seconds; not milliseconds like the 'try to go direct to voicemail' spam calls). I tell this to everyone I care for as well, if I don't pick up by the third ring, hang up and dial again. (This is to skip it going to voicemail and also differentiate the behavior). I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic because it would double their OpEx and also make it more likely that they are targeted for actually trying to call your number with intent, rather than in error.
  - __jal 8y ago
    > I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic because it would double their OpEx Except my missed call log is full of back-to-back calls from random phone numbers in my prefix. Either half the folks in Metro NYC (where I haven't lived in over a decade) are calling me to report the other half got hit by a car, or this adaption has already been made.
    - 8y ago
UncleEntity 8y ago
> and the option to allow a second call to come through from an unknown number if it’s within 2min of the first. They have (had? still on 10.3 which it claims is up to date) that option under the "Repeated Calls" clicky box -- allow calls if they call back within 3 minutes. Had to turn even that off since the spammers got smart and were getting through.

hyperjeff 8y ago

Isn't this exact feature available via Do Not Disturb? I have DND on 24/7, and you can quickly turn it off for Lyft/etc if needed. If you make groups within your contacts you can even hone the whitelist and can fairly quickly mod it.

fossuser 8y ago
No - DND blocks all notifications in addition to calls which makes it not usable. I still want notifications for other things (especially text).
avodonosov 8y ago
I have DnD constantly too and find it convenient.
- ryandrake 8y ago
  Not just convenient. I’ve been in DND mode all day every day for months now, and I’ve witnessed a drastically improved overall quality of life. Mostly from the lack of texts and notifications, not just from the lack of phone calls. It has also resulted in my not being glued to my phone responding to everything. I can feel my mental health improving, and I don’t think I could go back to non-DND.
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  - pard68 8y ago
    I assume dnd is no notification or signal? I have had this since high school (15 years I guess)? At the time phones weren't allowed so every day my phone had to be on silent and I never turned it off. I started working and phones weren't allowed. Then college and phones weren't allowed. I don't even know what my ring tone is and I only assume my alert messages work because my phone can play music...
tdfx 8y ago
DND does not direct calls to voicemail, it just keeps your phone silent and doesn't ring/vibrate while the incoming call screen is showing. I've still accidentally answered calls while in DND mode. Sometimes I just want to turn phone calls off entirely and use my phone like it's an iPod touch with a data SIM card.

mc32 8y ago

The problem is a legitimate urgent call from an unwhitelisted number. Hospital, school, fire, police, relatives, etc.

fossuser 8y ago
Don’t care about those - voicemail is good enough, repeated call would get through anyway. I already don’t answer numbers not in contacts (I think this is true of most people) so no real change in behavior.
- nulbyte 8y ago
  I think most people have learned. But every now and then, I'll get a call or text from a clueless individual. They are usually blown away to learn how my number (or a random unknown number) ended up in their call log.
mjevans 8y ago
That's what the retry feature is. If it's truly urgent they'll call again within a short timeframe (+3 to +300 seconds; not milliseconds like the 'try to go direct to voicemail' spam calls). I tell this to everyone I care for as well, if I don't pick up by the third ring, hang up and dial again. (This is to skip it going to voicemail and also differentiate the behavior). I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic because it would double their OpEx and also make it more likely that they are targeted for actually trying to call your number with intent, rather than in error.
- __jal 8y ago
  > I don't expect scammers to pick up this tactic because it would double their OpEx Except my missed call log is full of back-to-back calls from random phone numbers in my prefix. Either half the folks in Metro NYC (where I haven't lived in over a decade) are calling me to report the other half got hit by a car, or this adaption has already been made.
  - 8y ago

UncleEntity 8y ago

> and the option to allow a second call to come through from an unknown number if it’s within 2min of the first. They have (had? still on 10.3 which it claims is up to date) that option under the "Repeated Calls" clicky box -- allow calls if they call back within 3 minutes. Had to turn even that off since the spammers got smart and were getting through.