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Ultraorthodox Jews buy dumbphones only because of religious considerations. These are known as Kosher phones. Here is a shop that sells them https://www.zipy.co

Ultraorthodox Jews buy dumbphones only because of religious considerations. These are known as Kosher phones. Here is a shop that sells them https://www.zipy.co.il/s/אליאקספרס/-/-/טלפון/?aspect=:::200000563:200000563_200005437:Not+Touch+Screen/&gclid=Cj0KCQjwg73kBRDVARIsAF-kEH-CCwlrFTBvvW3jpvwk6FdC3WAj0RfzSwDxjKpQ9EXAb6-1IqKNYpYaAqteEALw_wcB#coil&data1=PhoneHe&data2=HE_PHO https://www.zipy.co.il/s/אליאקספרס/-/-/טלפון/?aspect=:::2000...

mac01021 8y ago
What exactly is the nature of those religious considerations? Is it just that you can use a dumb phone on friday night without violating the sabbath (can you?)? Is there a religious doctrine that explicitly prohibits general purpose computing devices in the home?
- mjlee 8y ago
  It's a phone that has the potential for corrupting influences removed. No web browser, MMS, etc.
- MichaelMoser123 8y ago
  I think it's about not being exposed to indecent content, but I am no authority on the subject.
- dijit 8y ago
  Phones stripped of anything that could be corrupting. Browsers, etc; More information here: https://www.quora.com/What-are-Kosher-cell-phones https://www.quora.com/What-are-Kosher-cell-phones
- imglorp 8y ago
  Yeah, the idea is to prohibit work on the sabbath which includes kindling fire, and by association, commanding lights/electronics. So they might have lights on timers and such workarounds, so they don't actually touch them. And killing time on the internet/games/email is probably not in the spirit of studying scripture etc. No idea how they justify using a dumb phone doesn't trigger the work clause.
- brokenmachine 8y ago
  Fun fact: in some places the lifts in buildings are set to stop at every floor during the sabbath, so people don't have to push the buttons or they'll go to hell or whatever. Seems to me if you're looking for loopholes and workarounds just so you can do what you need to do on certain days of the week, then the rules might be silly.
wyclif 8y ago
I don't know about you, but I'm jonesing for one of these so I can experience that "Gordon Gekko on the beach" feel (sorry for the '80s reference, but if you haven't seen Wall Street, you totally should): https://www.zipy.co.il/p/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A1/classical-retro-style-gsm-mobile-phone-with-antenna-signal-power-bank-extroverted/32877168814/#wrapper https://www.zipy.co.il/p/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A7%D7%A...
- toomanyrichies 8y ago
  Also known as the “Zach Morris phone”: https://goo.gl/images/5VbHYW https://goo.gl/images/5VbHYW

mac01021 8y ago

What exactly is the nature of those religious considerations? Is it just that you can use a dumb phone on friday night without violating the sabbath (can you?)? Is there a religious doctrine that explicitly prohibits general purpose computing devices in the home?

mjlee 8y ago
It's a phone that has the potential for corrupting influences removed. No web browser, MMS, etc.
MichaelMoser123 8y ago
I think it's about not being exposed to indecent content, but I am no authority on the subject.
dijit 8y ago
Phones stripped of anything that could be corrupting. Browsers, etc; More information here: https://www.quora.com/What-are-Kosher-cell-phones https://www.quora.com/What-are-Kosher-cell-phones
imglorp 8y ago
Yeah, the idea is to prohibit work on the sabbath which includes kindling fire, and by association, commanding lights/electronics. So they might have lights on timers and such workarounds, so they don't actually touch them. And killing time on the internet/games/email is probably not in the spirit of studying scripture etc. No idea how they justify using a dumb phone doesn't trigger the work clause.
brokenmachine 8y ago
Fun fact: in some places the lifts in buildings are set to stop at every floor during the sabbath, so people don't have to push the buttons or they'll go to hell or whatever. Seems to me if you're looking for loopholes and workarounds just so you can do what you need to do on certain days of the week, then the rules might be silly.

wyclif 8y ago

I don't know about you, but I'm jonesing for one of these so I can experience that "Gordon Gekko on the beach" feel (sorry for the '80s reference, but if you haven't seen Wall Street, you totally should): https://www.zipy.co.il/p/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A7%D7%A1%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A1/classical-retro-style-gsm-mobile-phone-with-antenna-signal-power-bank-extroverted/32877168814/#wrapper https://www.zipy.co.il/p/%D7%90%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%90%D7%A7%D7%A...

toomanyrichies 8y ago
Also known as the “Zach Morris phone”: https://goo.gl/images/5VbHYW https://goo.gl/images/5VbHYW