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Because they want to do a manual backup instead of just iCloud? Because it was initially designed and delivered that way? Because they like manually managing

by hobs 8y ago

Because they want to do a manual backup instead of just iCloud? Because it was initially designed and delivered that way? Because they like manually managing music and videos? etc

chrisseaton 8y ago
I think these are pretty obtuse use-cases these days for the vast majority of people. I also manage videos and things but I do it via the cloud like most people. You may disagree with a that but it explains why they went that route - it wasn't a case of them not thinking.
- baobrain 8y ago
  Is wanting to connect to your Macbook to charge your phone an obtuse use case? At the very least apple should have shipped with a USB-C to lightning cable, not USB-A.
  - Bud 8y ago
    Why? You keep repeating this without ever defending your argument. As of right now, and in the near future, more Mac users have USB-A. There is simply no compelling reason to make this change unless you absolutely need extra features provided uniquely by USB-C. And this device doesn't need anything like that.
    - deleted 8y ago
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    - asark 8y ago
      The reverse problem (I have lots and lots of USB-A devices, while the only USB-C device in my house is my wife's Android phone, so like almost everyone else I had "no compelling reason" to want a device with any USB-C ports, let alone only USB-C ports) didn't convince Apple to leave one or two USB-A ports in their pro macbooks, unfortunately. That you can't go buy a current macbook and current iphone or ipad and connect the two when you get home unless you buy extra stuff, but you can if you have an older macbook, is silly. It is a point in favor of that "Apple's greatest MacBook Pro yet: the 2015" joke/actually-true-thing, I guess.
- scarface74 8y ago
  Are you trying to manage large videos via the cloud with only a crummy WiFi connection shared with an entire school?
  - chrisseaton 8y ago
    The problem is your WiFi then, not the iPad's design. It's intended to be used with a reasonable network connection.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      So I’m sure every school system will get right on that. As well as every cable ISP that even with their gigabit home internet service caps upload bandwidth at 35Mbps.
      - chrisseaton 8y ago
        I know it's a problem! But I don't think it's Apple's job to forever hold back their development for people's very particular personal problems. You bog a product down by making sure you can handle all these issues. Keep it simple and move on, I say.
        scarface74 8y ago
        You're right, Apple shouldn't produce products that are actually usable for the vast amount of customers in the world as it exists today. They should also abandon LTE and only produce devices that work with 5G.....
        chrisseaton 8y ago
        If you can't get reliable WiFi maybe the iPad isn't the product for you? I don't think that's an issue - there's loads of other products on the market and people who do want the clean Apple experience can get that. Why do all products have to do everything and suit the entire world's crazy workflows? You end up with a Homer Car.

by hobs 8y ago

Because they want to do a manual backup instead of just iCloud? Because it was initially designed and delivered that way? Because they like manually managing music and videos? etc

chrisseaton 8y ago

I think these are pretty obtuse use-cases these days for the vast majority of people. I also manage videos and things but I do it via the cloud like most people. You may disagree with a that but it explains why they went that route - it wasn't a case of them not thinking.

baobrain 8y ago
Is wanting to connect to your Macbook to charge your phone an obtuse use case? At the very least apple should have shipped with a USB-C to lightning cable, not USB-A.
- Bud 8y ago
  Why? You keep repeating this without ever defending your argument. As of right now, and in the near future, more Mac users have USB-A. There is simply no compelling reason to make this change unless you absolutely need extra features provided uniquely by USB-C. And this device doesn't need anything like that.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - asark 8y ago
    The reverse problem (I have lots and lots of USB-A devices, while the only USB-C device in my house is my wife's Android phone, so like almost everyone else I had "no compelling reason" to want a device with any USB-C ports, let alone only USB-C ports) didn't convince Apple to leave one or two USB-A ports in their pro macbooks, unfortunately. That you can't go buy a current macbook and current iphone or ipad and connect the two when you get home unless you buy extra stuff, but you can if you have an older macbook, is silly. It is a point in favor of that "Apple's greatest MacBook Pro yet: the 2015" joke/actually-true-thing, I guess.
scarface74 8y ago
Are you trying to manage large videos via the cloud with only a crummy WiFi connection shared with an entire school?
- chrisseaton 8y ago
  The problem is your WiFi then, not the iPad's design. It's intended to be used with a reasonable network connection.
  - scarface74 8y ago
    So I’m sure every school system will get right on that. As well as every cable ISP that even with their gigabit home internet service caps upload bandwidth at 35Mbps.
    - chrisseaton 8y ago
      I know it's a problem! But I don't think it's Apple's job to forever hold back their development for people's very particular personal problems. You bog a product down by making sure you can handle all these issues. Keep it simple and move on, I say.
      - scarface74 8y ago
        You're right, Apple shouldn't produce products that are actually usable for the vast amount of customers in the world as it exists today. They should also abandon LTE and only produce devices that work with 5G.....
        chrisseaton 8y ago
        If you can't get reliable WiFi maybe the iPad isn't the product for you? I don't think that's an issue - there's loads of other products on the market and people who do want the clean Apple experience can get that. Why do all products have to do everything and suit the entire world's crazy workflows? You end up with a Homer Car.