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Thanks for your post. I've been wondering about federation distribution in various protocols since seeing similar stats for Mastodon [0]. Having federated proto

by Leace 8y ago

Thanks for your post. I've been wondering about federation distribution in various protocols since seeing similar stats for Mastodon [0]. Having federated protocol where vast majority of users still use one server is sub-optimal IMHO (this is not only for Matrix). [0]: https://rosenzweig.io/blog/the-federation-fallacy.html https://rosenzweig.io/blog/the-federation-fallacy.html As for identity server, it was just surprising for me (from user's perspective) that when my friends ran a homeserver I still needed a lot of config on Riot for Android to connect to (homeserver URL, identity server URL). I've seen some well-known URIs [1] but sadly Riot for Android did not query them for my e-mail. [1]: https://f-droid.org/.well-known/matrix/client https://f-droid.org/.well-known/matrix/client Thanks for your work on Matrix, glad that you guys are pushing the boundaries of UX of open-source software!

Arathorn 8y ago
the mobile clients lagged a bit on .well-known support, but it landed over the last few weeks: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-ios-sdk/pull/644 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-ios-sdk/pull/644 and https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-android-sdk/pull/436 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-android-sdk/pull/436. Hopefully this should improve things a bunch. For 'the federation fallacy' thing: our approach is to first decentralise accounts (so you can transparently move them between servers), at which we can turn off matrix.org (or at least disable signup) assuming there are enough other quality public servers available to incorporate the resulting diaspora. In the longer term, we want to enable P2P in Matrix so you don't even need a server at all if you don't want it, at which point the federation fallacy argument entirely falls apart :) and thanks for the thanks! :)
- zinid 8y ago
  Doing the same for XMPP: http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html Let's compete.

by Leace 8y ago

Arathorn 8y ago

the mobile clients lagged a bit on .well-known support, but it landed over the last few weeks: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-ios-sdk/pull/644 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-ios-sdk/pull/644 and https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-android-sdk/pull/436 https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-android-sdk/pull/436. Hopefully this should improve things a bunch. For 'the federation fallacy' thing: our approach is to first decentralise accounts (so you can transparently move them between servers), at which we can turn off matrix.org (or at least disable signup) assuming there are enough other quality public servers available to incorporate the resulting diaspora. In the longer term, we want to enable P2P in Matrix so you don't even need a server at all if you don't want it, at which point the federation fallacy argument entirely falls apart :) and thanks for the thanks! :)

zinid 8y ago
Doing the same for XMPP: http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html Let's compete.