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It's the standard problem of software designed by software engineers: they have a problem turning off their geek-brain to see how a potential user views it. Ma

It's the standard problem of software designed by software engineers: they have a problem turning off their geek-brain to see how a potential user views it. Matrix folks: * if a teenager cannot understand what it is in 10 seconds of looking at it or if a teenager does not download the client after understanding what it is your product is hopelessly broken * if a 30 year old cannot understand what it is in 20 seconds or upon understanding does not immediately install that software, your product is hopelessly broken * if a 50 year who has facebook just looks at your website funny, then your product is hopelessly broken.

TuringTest 8y ago
That's why you point users to Riot.im instead... Seriously, you don't expose end users to platform-level infrastructure. Matrix audience is software engineers, so it's good that matrix.org is dedicated to explain itself to developers. The tools you build on top of it, those are the ones you show to end users.
- notyourday 8y ago
  Oh so the users also need to know that when they hear Matrix, it means people are talking about Riot! Compare: https://telegram.org/ https://telegram.org/ with https://matrix.org/blog/home/ https://matrix.org/blog/home/ Where is a link to the app store for Riot? Where is the link to the website? Why do I get a table of "yes/no/kinda" when I click on "Clients"? This project will will become another IRC -- cute but irrelevant.
  - Animats 8y ago
    IRC has active users. I have, or had, a Disapora account. Nobody to talk to. I have an OpenID. No service I use still accepts it. The home page of Matrix has to provide a convincing argument that Matrix is worth more attention than Mastodon or GNU Social.
  - TuringTest 8y ago
    What's wrong with the link " Try Matrix Now / Get Chatting ", right below "Welcome to Matrix / Learn more"? https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html

TuringTest 8y ago

That's why you point users to Riot.im instead... Seriously, you don't expose end users to platform-level infrastructure. Matrix audience is software engineers, so it's good that matrix.org is dedicated to explain itself to developers. The tools you build on top of it, those are the ones you show to end users.

notyourday 8y ago
Oh so the users also need to know that when they hear Matrix, it means people are talking about Riot! Compare: https://telegram.org/ https://telegram.org/ with https://matrix.org/blog/home/ https://matrix.org/blog/home/ Where is a link to the app store for Riot? Where is the link to the website? Why do I get a table of "yes/no/kinda" when I click on "Clients"? This project will will become another IRC -- cute but irrelevant.
- Animats 8y ago
  IRC has active users. I have, or had, a Disapora account. Nobody to talk to. I have an OpenID. No service I use still accepts it. The home page of Matrix has to provide a convincing argument that Matrix is worth more attention than Mastodon or GNU Social.
- TuringTest 8y ago
  What's wrong with the link " Try Matrix Now / Get Chatting ", right below "Welcome to Matrix / Learn more"? https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html https://matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now.html