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This is going to lead to a great episode of British political theatre. The burqa is an effective counter measure. Full body, with a mesh eye opening. The UK i

This is going to lead to a great episode of British political theatre. The burqa is an effective counter measure. Full body, with a mesh eye opening. The UK is either going to have to ban the burqa in public, at the price of being called an islamiphobic nation. Or continue to allow the burqa, and watch as it becomes the new cartoon criminal outfit, and acknowledge that The Government has established policies favorable to Islam over other religions. Get your popcorn and TV license ready.

gruez 8y ago
What about allowing burqas, but requiring a "license plate" to be affixed?
- huffmsa 8y ago
  Plausible. Rfid or some other pingable ID marker. You'll still get a fight about something physically visible though. Too much Jew with a gold star connotation.
  - huffmsa 8y ago
    Now I've got a lot of off color jokes about IoT burqas in my head.
  - faceplanted 8y ago
    Kind of an interesting connection there, hard to say that having a marking on your burqa somehow makes it more obvious you're a Muslim. Would be weird to walk around with a licence plate style identifier though, since anyone could scan it and follow you rather than just someone with a massive facial recognition database. honestly the thing I don't like about facial recognition is that it could somehow become mandatory in a country where you're not even required to carry any kind of national ID unless you're driving, and it's suddenly your problem if a facial recognition system you didn't consent to can't recognise you.
    - huffmsa 8y ago
      It becomes mandatory and the "social credit" system follows shortly thereafter. You stop being an individual and become a cog in the national machine.
- checkyoursudo 8y ago
  How would you verify the person in the burqa is the licensee?
  - huffmsa 8y ago
    Same way you verify if the person driving a car is the owner. They're legally responsible for the vehicle unless they can prove they weren't at the wheel. But the real question is, why do you need to verify the person in the first place, unless they are suspected of committing a crime?
- fredley 8y ago
  Serious comment: We all carry around a license plate almost all the time - your phone. The data harvested by your phone (all of which is accessible to authorities) provides a complete history of you (ref. intended), where you've been, who you've met, and a proxy for what you're thinking about. How long before it's mandatory to carry one?
  - huffmsa 8y ago
    Probably soon. If only because of digital payments pretty much phasing out cash.
toyg 8y ago
The burqa is extremely unpractical to commit crimes, since actual visibility is very limited in practice. It’s akin to horse’s blinders. This is why it’s pretty unpopular even with Islamic women, who tend to prefer headscarves, even if they take longer to set up at first.

gruez 8y ago

What about allowing burqas, but requiring a "license plate" to be affixed?

huffmsa 8y ago
Plausible. Rfid or some other pingable ID marker. You'll still get a fight about something physically visible though. Too much Jew with a gold star connotation.
- huffmsa 8y ago
  Now I've got a lot of off color jokes about IoT burqas in my head.
- faceplanted 8y ago
  Kind of an interesting connection there, hard to say that having a marking on your burqa somehow makes it more obvious you're a Muslim. Would be weird to walk around with a licence plate style identifier though, since anyone could scan it and follow you rather than just someone with a massive facial recognition database. honestly the thing I don't like about facial recognition is that it could somehow become mandatory in a country where you're not even required to carry any kind of national ID unless you're driving, and it's suddenly your problem if a facial recognition system you didn't consent to can't recognise you.
  - huffmsa 8y ago
    It becomes mandatory and the "social credit" system follows shortly thereafter. You stop being an individual and become a cog in the national machine.
checkyoursudo 8y ago
How would you verify the person in the burqa is the licensee?
- huffmsa 8y ago
  Same way you verify if the person driving a car is the owner. They're legally responsible for the vehicle unless they can prove they weren't at the wheel. But the real question is, why do you need to verify the person in the first place, unless they are suspected of committing a crime?
fredley 8y ago
Serious comment: We all carry around a license plate almost all the time - your phone. The data harvested by your phone (all of which is accessible to authorities) provides a complete history of you (ref. intended), where you've been, who you've met, and a proxy for what you're thinking about. How long before it's mandatory to carry one?
- huffmsa 8y ago
  Probably soon. If only because of digital payments pretty much phasing out cash.

toyg 8y ago

The burqa is extremely unpractical to commit crimes, since actual visibility is very limited in practice. It’s akin to horse’s blinders. This is why it’s pretty unpopular even with Islamic women, who tend to prefer headscarves, even if they take longer to set up at first.