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Copenhagen is amazing in this regard. I'd recommend to just watch anything from Jan Gehl on Youtube if you're interested in this topic: https://www.youtube.com/
by dukoid 8y ago
Copenhagen is amazing in this regard. I'd recommend to just watch anything from Jan Gehl on Youtube if you're interested in this topic: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jan+gehl https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jan+gehl
- kodz4 8y agoSeconded! He has lived through the transition architecture made from just scaling things up (as engineering advanced), to scaling things up while thinking about effects on human psychology and sociology. And for anyone paying attention, that same pattern is repeating in the Software Architecture today.
- LoSboccacc 8y agopopulation: 600k not exactly a challenge now is it. the dynamics for cities with 6 million inhabitants are on a whole different scale because while building can pack people in three dimension transit has relatively few 2d planes to be built upon.
- buro9 8y agoSan Francisco at 884k isn't that far ahead of Copenhagen at 602k, but yet the difference is very clear.
- LoSboccacc 8y agoyeah, nothing to do with the bay area being littered with large cities and population number being cut by municipalities. are we playing special cases here? Vatican City with population 1000 should be Eden then.
- older 8y ago> According to OECD, the Copenhagen Metropolitan Region had close to 2.4 million inhabitants in 2005: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_metropolitan_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_metropolitan_area
- LoSboccacc 8y agojesus are we really comparing this https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco+Bay+Area,+CA,+USA/@37.5241264,-122.234265,76008m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x808583a3a688d7b5:0x8c891b8457461fa9!8m2!3d37.8271784!4d-122.2913078 https://www.google.com/maps/place/San+Francisco+Bay+Area,+CA... and this https://www.google.com/maps/place/Copenhagen,+Denmark/@55.674959,12.1711072,76477m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x4652533c5c803d23:0x4dd7edde69467b8!8m2!3d55.6760968!4d12.5683372 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Copenhagen,+Denmark/@55.67... (should open at the same scale) as if they were comparable sprawl?
- nraynaud 8y agoWait the sprawl is caused by the car, not the other way around. People always increase their drive time, if you give them better roads they just sprawl more.
- username90 8y agoThat is a dumb comparison, the problem we are discussing is that SF sprawl is less dense, of course it will appear huge on a map compared to denser cities. SF metropolitan area is 4.8 million, about twice that of Copenhagen, but its sprawl looks way more than twice the size of Copenhagen sprawl. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco%E2%80%93Oakland%E2%80%93Hayward,_CA_Metropolitan_Statistical_Area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco%E2%80%93Oakland%...
- LoSboccacc 8y agoagain, caused by the close proximity of cities splitting up the metropolitan area around the bay, the actual sprawl is of those cities combined as people do commute from one another.
- SaintGhurka 8y agoIf you want to compare the metro areas, the San Francisco Bay Area has a population of 7 million. That's more than all of Denmark in a tiny fraction of the space. The comparisons get a little stretched, given the population differences.
- JDiculous 8y agoYou don't need a car in NYC, Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore, and Hong Kong, all cities with populations greater than 6 million (well Singapore is 5.6m).
- ahje 8y agoCopenhagen traffic is a nightmare. Yes, the city is fairly bicycle friendly, but when it's faster to ride a bike 10 km to work instead of taking the subway* then there's a serious public transportation issue no matter how you put it. * source: Living in Copenhagen for five years.