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If recruiting software didn't penalize for keywords I think it would be less of an issue. Its a struggle trying to figure out what to put in the "list of techno

If recruiting software didn't penalize for keywords I think it would be less of an issue. Its a struggle trying to figure out what to put in the "list of technologies" type section. I have to put them somewhere to get past crappy HR screening software since explaining every tech in a job description would create paragraphs but just listing it doesn't represent the level of aptitude. For example, I might use Chef daily. If I put it in a list of other tools I use it can mean I know how to use it for my very specific use case, but usually it is taken as "this guy thinks he contributes to the Chef source code and knows every bizarre scenario involving it" by some tech screener trying to get his rocks off. I 100% blame every tech recruiter for furthering this mess.

scarface74 8y ago
The secret is don’t base your job search on blindly submitting resumes to applicant tracking systems. When I am looking for a job, I send my resume to my curated list of local recruiters followed up by a phone call. We talk about what they have available and what I am looking for. I have enough of a history with them that they make sure that my resume shows up on top of the hiring managers stack. My success rate from submitting my resume to being invited to an in person interview is 100% unless the req was closed. My non rejection rate is close to 100% (I’ve taken myself out of the running because I found a job.)
- hhs 8y ago
  This is interesting. How did you build your list of local recruiters - through trial and error? And did you use services other than LinkedIn?
  - scarface74 8y ago
    It happened over many years. But basically, I respond to every recruiter if I don’t already have a contact with the recruiting company and they have local offices. Mostly LinkedIn these days. I only got really serious about my career about 10 years ago. Before that I was your typical “dark matter developer” working at one job for almost a decade.
    - hhs 8y ago
      Good to know, this is useful info, especially with respect to working with every recruiter and sticking to LinkedIn. Thanks.
      - scarface74 8y ago
        On that note. My ususl response when a recruiter reaches out to me has been. “Hey, I am not looking to make a move right now/I’m looking to make a move in $x months. What are the trends you are currently seeing and what are the salary ranges? Send me a list of open reqs. I might know some people who are looking”. This will also let me stay up on market trends and know which projects to focus on and what to emphasize on my resume.
        hhs 8y ago
        That's quite neat, shifting from being passive to engaging actively with them, I like that, thank you.

scarface74 8y ago

The secret is don’t base your job search on blindly submitting resumes to applicant tracking systems. When I am looking for a job, I send my resume to my curated list of local recruiters followed up by a phone call. We talk about what they have available and what I am looking for. I have enough of a history with them that they make sure that my resume shows up on top of the hiring managers stack. My success rate from submitting my resume to being invited to an in person interview is 100% unless the req was closed. My non rejection rate is close to 100% (I’ve taken myself out of the running because I found a job.)

hhs 8y ago
This is interesting. How did you build your list of local recruiters - through trial and error? And did you use services other than LinkedIn?
- scarface74 8y ago
  It happened over many years. But basically, I respond to every recruiter if I don’t already have a contact with the recruiting company and they have local offices. Mostly LinkedIn these days. I only got really serious about my career about 10 years ago. Before that I was your typical “dark matter developer” working at one job for almost a decade.
  - hhs 8y ago
    Good to know, this is useful info, especially with respect to working with every recruiter and sticking to LinkedIn. Thanks.
    - scarface74 8y ago
      On that note. My ususl response when a recruiter reaches out to me has been. “Hey, I am not looking to make a move right now/I’m looking to make a move in $x months. What are the trends you are currently seeing and what are the salary ranges? Send me a list of open reqs. I might know some people who are looking”. This will also let me stay up on market trends and know which projects to focus on and what to emphasize on my resume.
      - hhs 8y ago
        That's quite neat, shifting from being passive to engaging actively with them, I like that, thank you.