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Chess is a very low luck game, but it's not zero luck. There are a lot of ways to have luck without randomness. Simultaneous action selection which forces ever
by seventhtiger 8y ago
Chess is a very low luck game, but it's not zero luck.
There are a lot of ways to have luck without randomness. Simultaneous action selection which forces everyone to guess each other's moves is based on luck, and that goes from Rock Paper Scissors to Diplomacy to Street Fighter.
But for chess, although it is turn based and perfect information, the luck comes from guessing at complexity.
If you ask people to guess a specific digit of pi, say the 1,234,658th digit, they will have to guess. Although there is a method to calculate it, and although you can reduce the required luck by knowing some statistics about the digits of various areas of pi, it will come down to guessing.
Perfect information turn based games introduce luck by hiding a lot of information behind complexity and forcing us to make educated guesses. A perfect information turn based game without complexity is a solved game, for example tic tac toe.
The fact is that there is no interesting game with zero luck. Players just feel differently about different kinds of luck. Knowing that an answer is theoretically possible forces them to acknowledge their limitation rather than the game, even though in reality everyone is guessing and matches are won via luck.
Richard Garfield has an excellent talk about Luck vs Skill that can be found on Youtube.