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Facebook does use it. They design their own hardware, but they are do not manufacture it themselves, they aren't in the hardware manufacturing business. They pa
by electrum 8y ago
Facebook does use it. They design their own hardware, but they are do not manufacture it themselves, they aren't in the hardware manufacturing business. They parter with companies like Quanta to do that.
Here's an older article that explains the relationship: https://venturebeat.com/2014/01/29/facebook-quanta/ https://venturebeat.com/2014/01/29/facebook-quanta/
- baybal2 8y agoI'm well aware that. I'm saying that in a sense that they don't buy or use much of the original "ocp platform" they show off at their events. And much of it was said to have ended after limited deployment in their Prineville DC, after which they switched back to regular OEM quanta gear with just few things like blue-green handlebars added, and "barebone" motherboard trays. I've been whispered that the biggest buyers of the original "ocp platform" gear is not even facebook these days, but some banks
- lclarkmichalek 8y agoI think you need better sources
- baybal2 8y agoSo, do they?? Can you tell if that's the case?
- wmf 8y agoSo your theory is, what, that Facebook spends tons of money designing multiple generations of hardware that they don't use? Why would that make any sense?
- baybal2 8y agoIt doesn't and that is what baffles me
- Twirrim 8y agoSo.... maybe it's worth considering that your initial premise is faulty?
- baybal2 8y agoWell, in that case I just got disinformated. My buddy worked in their DC, and that was his first hand account: "OCP stuff came with major deficiencies, haphazardly reverting everything back to off the shelf U1s"
- nuclear_eclipse 8y agoFacebook's entire blob storage and data warehouse (multi-exabyte) is run completely on OCP storage hardware built by ODMs, of which Quanta is included. Anyone telling you that we don't use OCP is grossly misinformed. Source: I was on the blob storage team when we migrated all of our data from OCP's gen1 storage design [1] to the new gen2 storage design [2]. 1: https://www.opencompute.org/documents/facebook-open-vault-storage-hardware-v08-spec https://www.opencompute.org/documents/facebook-open-vault-st... 2: https://www.opencompute.org/documents/facebook-bryce-canyon-storage-system-specification https://www.opencompute.org/documents/facebook-bryce-canyon-... edit: corrected links.
- baybal2 8y agoWell, then it is. What do you use for regular servers these day?
- nuclear_eclipse 8y agoMore OCP hardware (or designs that will eventually be contributed to OCP), in many different SKUs depending on use case. This page lists most of the current-gen hardware that I am aware of: https://www.opencompute.org/contributions?refinementList%5Bcontributor%5D%5B0%5D=Facebook&refinementList%5Bfamily%5D%5B0%5D=OpenRack%20v2&refinementList%5Baccept_year%5D=&refinementList%5Bproject%5D%5B0%5D=Server&page=1&configure%5BfacetFilters%5D%5B0%5D=archived%3Afalse https://www.opencompute.org/contributions?refinementList%5Bc...