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Are you responsible for getting your kids to school? The average US school day starts at 8 AM.

TomMarius 8y ago
In my country kids use their foot to get to the school, even small kids (usually starting at 9 years when afterschool care is not available anymore). Maybe you should start structuring your society in a way that allows people without cars to get around if you don't like that, or move to Europe.
- roasm 8y ago
  Wow, I don't know if the negativity is warranted here, but for me (and my kids walk to school), getting the kids ready involves making sure the young kids get properly dressed, breakfasted, lunch packed, etc... Transportation is not always the issue.
  - TomMarius 8y ago
    I didn't want to be negative, sorry. Kids generally are able to do all of what you saod when they're 9 years old. I've seen that American families often belittle their kids and are afraid to make them responsible.
    - bobthepanda 8y ago
      Your mileage may vary. I grew up In New York City and was fine getting myself ready and taking an hour on public transport to school every day, but New York is an outlier amongst US cities. Even my friends who grew up in the suburbs just outside New York needed their parents to be chauffeurs and butlers for them.
    - noir_lord 8y ago
      Not just the US, UK is the same, when I was 9 (1989) I had to cross two busy roads to get to school and it was considered entirely normal to walk to school alone. Now in 2019 at the same age (9) letting my step-son do the same would be considered by a lot of parents to be borderline child abuse. I’m treating him the same way my parents treat me, if he wants to make his mum a cup of tea (novelty hasn’t worn off) I’ll let him (with supervision at a distance), I’m not coddling him at his age I had full access to my father and grandfather sheds/garages and tools - by comparison a kettle isn’t a big deal.
      - indemnity 8y ago
        In New Zealand this is illegal while they’re under 14. Whereas, when I grew up, pretty much from 7+ you were expected to be able to go visit your friends, get to school, etc. without all the ceremony and scheduling required today.
        noir_lord 8y ago
        Yep, it's hard to avoid the "back in my day" feel but there is a qualitative difference in how we are raising current generations here, Daniel is vastly less self-sufficient than I was at the same age.
AndrewKemendo 8y ago
Yes. Kids 1 needs to be on the bus at 722 for the other two at 830.
- oarabbus_ 8y ago
  So you aren't really a night person, you just don't sleep very much.
  - AndrewKemendo 8y ago
    No, I'm a night person alright, but my choice to be a member of society in good standing forces me to not sleep very much. That's the problem.
    - p1esk 8y ago
      What happens if you try going to bed at 11pm?
      - AndrewKemendo 8y ago
        Depends on the day. Most times I try I'll lay there tossing around or staring at the window for a few hours.
      - warent 8y ago
        For me, the "night owl" manifests as clarity of mind. My mind feels clearer as the day progresses and clearest during the evenings. If I try waking up at 6:00 AM or something early like that, I'm foggy all day until ~10 PM when I should be getting to sleep, then I'm exhausted with a clarity I hadn't had all day so I don't even want to sleep, I want to do something. It's like, when the sun is down, my brain is ready to be super productive.

In my country kids use their foot to get to the school, even small kids (usually starting at 9 years when afterschool care is not available anymore). Maybe you should start structuring your society in a way that allows people without cars to get around if you don't like that, or move to Europe.

roasm 8y ago
Wow, I don't know if the negativity is warranted here, but for me (and my kids walk to school), getting the kids ready involves making sure the young kids get properly dressed, breakfasted, lunch packed, etc... Transportation is not always the issue.
- TomMarius 8y ago
  I didn't want to be negative, sorry. Kids generally are able to do all of what you saod when they're 9 years old. I've seen that American families often belittle their kids and are afraid to make them responsible.
  - bobthepanda 8y ago
    Your mileage may vary. I grew up In New York City and was fine getting myself ready and taking an hour on public transport to school every day, but New York is an outlier amongst US cities. Even my friends who grew up in the suburbs just outside New York needed their parents to be chauffeurs and butlers for them.
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    Not just the US, UK is the same, when I was 9 (1989) I had to cross two busy roads to get to school and it was considered entirely normal to walk to school alone. Now in 2019 at the same age (9) letting my step-son do the same would be considered by a lot of parents to be borderline child abuse. I’m treating him the same way my parents treat me, if he wants to make his mum a cup of tea (novelty hasn’t worn off) I’ll let him (with supervision at a distance), I’m not coddling him at his age I had full access to my father and grandfather sheds/garages and tools - by comparison a kettle isn’t a big deal.
    - indemnity 8y ago
      In New Zealand this is illegal while they’re under 14. Whereas, when I grew up, pretty much from 7+ you were expected to be able to go visit your friends, get to school, etc. without all the ceremony and scheduling required today.
      - noir_lord 8y ago
        Yep, it's hard to avoid the "back in my day" feel but there is a qualitative difference in how we are raising current generations here, Daniel is vastly less self-sufficient than I was at the same age.

AndrewKemendo 8y ago

Yes. Kids 1 needs to be on the bus at 722 for the other two at 830.

oarabbus_ 8y ago
So you aren't really a night person, you just don't sleep very much.
- AndrewKemendo 8y ago
  No, I'm a night person alright, but my choice to be a member of society in good standing forces me to not sleep very much. That's the problem.
  - p1esk 8y ago
    What happens if you try going to bed at 11pm?
    - AndrewKemendo 8y ago
      Depends on the day. Most times I try I'll lay there tossing around or staring at the window for a few hours.
    - warent 8y ago
      For me, the "night owl" manifests as clarity of mind. My mind feels clearer as the day progresses and clearest during the evenings. If I try waking up at 6:00 AM or something early like that, I'm foggy all day until ~10 PM when I should be getting to sleep, then I'm exhausted with a clarity I hadn't had all day so I don't even want to sleep, I want to do something. It's like, when the sun is down, my brain is ready to be super productive.