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I installed signal, only three of my contacts use it. One is a journalist, one is an artist/designer who does a lot in the crypto space and the last is a fellow

by jaabe 8y ago

I installed signal, only three of my contacts use it. One is a journalist, one is an artist/designer who does a lot in the crypto space and the last is a fellow enterprise architect. The first two are also active WhatsApp users. I’m as concerned about Facebook as everyone else, but you can’t seem to get around the fact that it’s the modern yellow pages. It’s the only platform,l everyone has, and it’s just incredible hard to get around that.

ggm 8y ago
I use signal with far more people. and I continue to suggest my WhatsApp relationships to move over but I also use WhatsApp because of weight of numbers. But for lasting interpersonal comunications I would like to use signal more. Their model makes it harder to have multiple devices in one account id as "me" and seem to make it hard to recruit non SIM enabled tablets and laptops.
tluyben2 8y ago
I did the same thing; I had more luck installing Telegram after that. WhatsApp works well (not really; the 'phone always has to be connected' thing is extremely annoying, but as in; everyone has it) still but we definitely need alternatives. I managed to not use Facebook for years now; I have an account but did not login for years. Unfortunately everyone has Messenger and a subset of them has WhatsApp (in my circles) and a very small subset has Telegram; Signal I really hear nothing about but the offering sounds compelling. In parts of Asia Wechat is mandatory; I know it's not a popular (in the west) opinion, but I find Wechat the most user friendly out of them all; it always works (even on incredibly bad and dropping connections) and it just has everything under one roof. But for obvious reasons it is also the worst offering. Cannot be avoided in China though.
on_and_off 8y ago
I tried Signal but I was disappointed by its UX. It is not horrible, but a bit below the other messaging apps I have been using. Which is an issue : hard to push my non techies relatives to move to something that they will find harder to use. I have one contact on Signal btw.
- akvadrako 8y ago
  The UX problem could be solved if there was enough users to make it worth the trouble. Personally, I only use Signal regularly, so I've convinced most of my friends to use it too. But only for talking to me I suspect.
erikpukinskis 8y ago
Facebook got around it, when the yellow pages were the yellow pages. These platforms always seem indomitable, but they are all susceptible to a disruptive technology. (As a side note, now that you are on Signal, the next person in your circle who signs up will have 4 contacts instead of 3. And then the next one after that will have 5, and so on. I have a lot more contacts on Signal now than I did when I signed up.)

by jaabe 8y ago

ggm 8y ago

I use signal with far more people. and I continue to suggest my WhatsApp relationships to move over but I also use WhatsApp because of weight of numbers. But for lasting interpersonal comunications I would like to use signal more. Their model makes it harder to have multiple devices in one account id as "me" and seem to make it hard to recruit non SIM enabled tablets and laptops.

tluyben2 8y ago

I did the same thing; I had more luck installing Telegram after that. WhatsApp works well (not really; the 'phone always has to be connected' thing is extremely annoying, but as in; everyone has it) still but we definitely need alternatives. I managed to not use Facebook for years now; I have an account but did not login for years. Unfortunately everyone has Messenger and a subset of them has WhatsApp (in my circles) and a very small subset has Telegram; Signal I really hear nothing about but the offering sounds compelling. In parts of Asia Wechat is mandatory; I know it's not a popular (in the west) opinion, but I find Wechat the most user friendly out of them all; it always works (even on incredibly bad and dropping connections) and it just has everything under one roof. But for obvious reasons it is also the worst offering. Cannot be avoided in China though.

on_and_off 8y ago

I tried Signal but I was disappointed by its UX. It is not horrible, but a bit below the other messaging apps I have been using. Which is an issue : hard to push my non techies relatives to move to something that they will find harder to use. I have one contact on Signal btw.

akvadrako 8y ago
The UX problem could be solved if there was enough users to make it worth the trouble. Personally, I only use Signal regularly, so I've convinced most of my friends to use it too. But only for talking to me I suspect.

erikpukinskis 8y ago

Facebook got around it, when the yellow pages were the yellow pages. These platforms always seem indomitable, but they are all susceptible to a disruptive technology. (As a side note, now that you are on Signal, the next person in your circle who signs up will have 4 contacts instead of 3. And then the next one after that will have 5, and so on. I have a lot more contacts on Signal now than I did when I signed up.)