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F1 is the best form of technology applied to a sport. If you like impressive machinery take a look at Lewis Hamilton hitting 5 to 6.5 Gs multiple times in an 82

F1 is the best form of technology applied to a sport. If you like impressive machinery take a look at Lewis Hamilton hitting 5 to 6.5 Gs multiple times in an 82.188 second lap at the Australian GP in 2017: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJRh9FG83d0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJRh9FG83d0 That s-curve at turn 11 starting at the ~53 sec mark (video above) with 6.5 lateral G-force is taken at 300km/h, down to 250 at the apex. This is the same lap with the speedometer instead of g-force meter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mtjC9DozXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mtjC9DozXs (turn 11 at the ~59 sec mark)

james_s_tayler 8y ago
I almost feel stupid but I never realized they take the corners THAT fast. Holy shit. Respect. That's insane.
- RaceWon 8y ago
  >I almost feel stupid but I never realized they take the corners THAT fast. Holy shit. Respect. That's insane. The camera angles Rarely do the cars justice in protraying their speed (though its gotten better). There's a great vid on HN with a Porsche 919 sportscar at the Nurbugring that portays the quick factor fairly realistically (you can quibble about the various diffrences between a Sportscar and an F1 car in terms of capabilities--both are other worldy quick, and fast). I like to post that vid when talk here turns to self-driving cars, but I digress; F1 pilots are simply amazing. The cars are too. "https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug" https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug"
  - Ntrails 8y ago
    Old top gear put a formula something car on the test track, and it was insane how the car moved compared to everything else i'd seen travelling "fast" on the same camera angles.
  - felipelemos 8y ago
    You need to remove the leading double quotes because it's being carried when clicked on mobile, and leading to a 404 on YouTube.
    - RaceWon 8y ago
      >You need to remove the leading double quotes Sorry, pulled an all nighter, didn't notice. Too late to edit it now.
      - jaytaylor 8y ago
        https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug Always fun and andrenaline releasing to watch the Porsche 919 fly around the nurburgring!
        james_s_tayler 8y ago
        He takes one of those corners at 350kph I can't even. The fastest I've been was 185kph. I always think back to that experience when watching stuff like this and try and empathize with the feeling of speed. It was insanely exhilarating to go that fast and I felt like if I even make a tiny mistake I'm gonna end up in a flaming wreck. And that was just down a long straight. I simply cannot imagine going almost twice as fast and taking a corner.
  - MR4D 8y ago
    Holy cow - I can’t even hit that speed in a freakin video game! Let alone someplace where I could actually crash in real life! Those drivers can’t be human. Proof positive aliens live among us. Wow.
- AmVess 8y ago
  Here's another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cNqaPSHv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cNqaPSHv0
Theodores 8y ago
It is and it is not! It is a formula. The 13 inch wheel size is an example of where being a formula gets in the way of innovation. Plus the non-movable aero rule. The rules are there to make it a sport with the drivers safe, close racing and the smaller teams not out-spent by the manufacturer teams. At the moment there is a lot going on for the 2021 season to fix the 'close racing' problem. The aero will be changed to throw the 'wake' up and over cars following the leader. At the moment any car wanting to overtake has to battle against a tide of messy air that has been disrupted by the car in front. The list of banned things is a list of technology that was not applied. Ten years ago Brawn F1 won with a 'double diffuser', 'spinner' wheel covers and a very different aero package than allowed today. They were bought out to become the Mercedes team. The Williams team brought along innovations that were tantamount to magic in the 1980's and 1990's. Active suspension appeared and was banned. On the same car there was traction control - now banned. We don't hear the term 'driver aids' any more but things taken for granted today such as a semi-automatic flappy paddle gearbox were not introduced easily to the sport. The engine is built to spec in F1. It has to have a certain amount of cylinders, the fuel rate is restricted as is the total fuel load. You would not be able to put a car together that didn't bother with the engine bit and had batteries to get through 200 miles of racing. The mystique surrounding F1 engineering is cool but sometimes it is best to not meet your heroes. If you go to a car meet such as at Goodwood you can see some fairly recent F1 cars and what is under the hood. Some of the engineering is quite shockingly primitive. There are reasons for this, for instance, if only having to get through a race and taking the car apart every weekend then bearings can be more basic than what you might find on a family mass market car. It is all a lot more bicycle workshop than NASA when you see these cars close up. This is not to deride what goes on, but, if engineering is bespoke, doesn't have to have customers fix it and only needs to last two hours of race distance then it has different production values. I think that Formula E on 'proper circuits' rather than city streets would be the apex of technology in sport. I am not alone in this, Formula E has more sponsors and the Formula 1 people that have jumped ship to it are not 'has beens'. F1 really is in danger of getting stuck in the slow lane with an elderly audience who can remember when F1 was shown 'free to air'.
- pmontra 8y ago
  Niki Lauda won a race for Brabham in the 80s driving a car fitted with a fan that sucked air from below the car. It got banned immediately, before the next race.

james_s_tayler 8y ago

I almost feel stupid but I never realized they take the corners THAT fast. Holy shit. Respect. That's insane.

RaceWon 8y ago
>I almost feel stupid but I never realized they take the corners THAT fast. Holy shit. Respect. That's insane. The camera angles Rarely do the cars justice in protraying their speed (though its gotten better). There's a great vid on HN with a Porsche 919 sportscar at the Nurbugring that portays the quick factor fairly realistically (you can quibble about the various diffrences between a Sportscar and an F1 car in terms of capabilities--both are other worldy quick, and fast). I like to post that vid when talk here turns to self-driving cars, but I digress; F1 pilots are simply amazing. The cars are too. "https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug" https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug"
- Ntrails 8y ago
  Old top gear put a formula something car on the test track, and it was insane how the car moved compared to everything else i'd seen travelling "fast" on the same camera angles.
- felipelemos 8y ago
  You need to remove the leading double quotes because it's being carried when clicked on mobile, and leading to a 404 on YouTube.
  - RaceWon 8y ago
    >You need to remove the leading double quotes Sorry, pulled an all nighter, didn't notice. Too late to edit it now.
    - jaytaylor 8y ago
      https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug https://youtu.be/PQmSUHhP3ug Always fun and andrenaline releasing to watch the Porsche 919 fly around the nurburgring!
      - james_s_tayler 8y ago
        He takes one of those corners at 350kph I can't even. The fastest I've been was 185kph. I always think back to that experience when watching stuff like this and try and empathize with the feeling of speed. It was insanely exhilarating to go that fast and I felt like if I even make a tiny mistake I'm gonna end up in a flaming wreck. And that was just down a long straight. I simply cannot imagine going almost twice as fast and taking a corner.
- MR4D 8y ago
  Holy cow - I can’t even hit that speed in a freakin video game! Let alone someplace where I could actually crash in real life! Those drivers can’t be human. Proof positive aliens live among us. Wow.
AmVess 8y ago
Here's another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cNqaPSHv0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2cNqaPSHv0

Theodores 8y ago

It is and it is not! It is a formula. The 13 inch wheel size is an example of where being a formula gets in the way of innovation. Plus the non-movable aero rule. The rules are there to make it a sport with the drivers safe, close racing and the smaller teams not out-spent by the manufacturer teams. At the moment there is a lot going on for the 2021 season to fix the 'close racing' problem. The aero will be changed to throw the 'wake' up and over cars following the leader. At the moment any car wanting to overtake has to battle against a tide of messy air that has been disrupted by the car in front. The list of banned things is a list of technology that was not applied. Ten years ago Brawn F1 won with a 'double diffuser', 'spinner' wheel covers and a very different aero package than allowed today. They were bought out to become the Mercedes team. The Williams team brought along innovations that were tantamount to magic in the 1980's and 1990's. Active suspension appeared and was banned. On the same car there was traction control - now banned. We don't hear the term 'driver aids' any more but things taken for granted today such as a semi-automatic flappy paddle gearbox were not introduced easily to the sport. The engine is built to spec in F1. It has to have a certain amount of cylinders, the fuel rate is restricted as is the total fuel load. You would not be able to put a car together that didn't bother with the engine bit and had batteries to get through 200 miles of racing. The mystique surrounding F1 engineering is cool but sometimes it is best to not meet your heroes. If you go to a car meet such as at Goodwood you can see some fairly recent F1 cars and what is under the hood. Some of the engineering is quite shockingly primitive. There are reasons for this, for instance, if only having to get through a race and taking the car apart every weekend then bearings can be more basic than what you might find on a family mass market car. It is all a lot more bicycle workshop than NASA when you see these cars close up. This is not to deride what goes on, but, if engineering is bespoke, doesn't have to have customers fix it and only needs to last two hours of race distance then it has different production values. I think that Formula E on 'proper circuits' rather than city streets would be the apex of technology in sport. I am not alone in this, Formula E has more sponsors and the Formula 1 people that have jumped ship to it are not 'has beens'. F1 really is in danger of getting stuck in the slow lane with an elderly audience who can remember when F1 was shown 'free to air'.

pmontra 8y ago
Niki Lauda won a race for Brabham in the 80s driving a car fitted with a fan that sucked air from below the car. It got banned immediately, before the next race.