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Cheese exposed to hip-hop tastes better, finds Swiss experiment
- nnnope 8y agoProof positive that not only science, but science journalism is filled with insipid bias.
- howiroll 8y agoLet’s expose codes to hip hop. Who knows? There could be more heap.
- _lessthan0 8y agoIs this valuable time for researchers
- jonny_eh 8y agoShows how unreliable experiments like this are. Needs some Bayesian analysis.
- adamnemecek 8y agoSounds like a way to promote something.
- iiv 8y agoCritical thinking?
- korethr 8y agoMy intuition is that this is a fluke that will fail to replicate. If it however, does replicate, consistently, that opens up a bunch of questions. Just how does hip-hop make cheese sound better?
- zitterbewegung 8y agoThe bacterial growth behavior changes by the sound that gets absorbed by the cheese . I think there have been studies that exposing plants to sound can also alter their behavior.
- NeedMoreTea 8y ago...and why doesn't Mozart or Led Zeppelin? Are there cheeses that prefer Led Zep? I have to stop now, this got too ridiculous. I also tend to think it's a fluke. :)
- robbrit 8y agoThey should have tried different songs. Stairway to Heaven might not be upbeat enough for cheese, maybe Immigrant Song or Black Dog would be better.
- justtopost 8y agoEven cheese knows blatant plagarism.
- caprese 8y agoits the sub bass my hypothesis if anyone wants to replicate
- eridius 8y agoNo worries about that, they didn't even plicate it to begin with. They exposed 8 wheels of cheese to 8 different types of music. This study was absolutely guaranteed to find that one of them "tastes better", given that if you tasted 8 wheels of cheese without the music, one of them would have tasted the best.
- derefr 8y agoCats' purrs cause them to heal faster. They're probably assisting their lymphatic channels in pumping to clear toxins, or somesuch. Maybe there's a frequency of sound that does the same—on a much smaller organelle level—for the bacteria in the cheese. Maybe increases their metabolism or something, makes the cheese age faster.
- rdiddly 8y agoCheese is funky. Hip-hop is funky. Science.
- benj111 8y agoSo James Brown would be even better then?
- _bxg1 8y agoMy intuition is that it's a satire of p-hacking culture
- harpastum 8y agoTry this thought experiment: play eight songs from different genres of music, flipping a coin 5 times for each song. Whichever song had the most heads must make you more likely to flip heads. How is this study different from that?
- JorgeGT 8y agoIt is not. If they had 10 cheeses exposed to hip-hop, 10 to classical, 10 controls, etc., and the differences in rating where statistically significant they would be onto something. But per the study factsheet, they used just one box per music type so it is exactly as you say, one box just tasted better but it could be for any number of reasons: https://hkbgehtanland.ch/assets/pdf/20181129_hkb_cheese-in-surround-sound_factsheet.pdf https://hkbgehtanland.ch/assets/pdf/20181129_hkb_cheese-in-s...
- temporalparts 8y agoI feel like this experiment, like Swiss cheese, is filled with holes.
- liamcardenas 8y agoWow that joke was very cheesy
- jonny_eh 8y agoI dunno, I thought it was pretty gouda
- matt-snider 8y agoWorks as long as you're not one of those people who pronounce it "gao-da"
- abledon 8y agohow are studies like these even funded? Shouldn't the community have their methods peer reviewed before going through? Like the sibling comment, there are so many holes in this study. waste of $
- Firerouge 8y agoHow large of a sample population did they use in their blind tasting, I can't find the original publication source, but I imagine a whole cheese wheel could be cut into quite a lot of little chunks.
- harpastum 8y agoI don't think the sample population is the largest issue here. The issue is that they didn't control for any other factors. It's entirely likely that the hip-hop cheese was better, but for reasons completely unrelated to the music. Without replication this is extremely likely to be random chance.
- plink 8y agoMy eyeballs initially read your post as: "How large of a sample population did they use in their BLING tasting..." If hip-hop can exert that kind of influence over even my semi-literate brain, I ask you, what kind of a chance does cheese stand?
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- duado 8y agoIs this a satire, or is there something about low frequency audio that physically changes the cheese?
- robdachshund 8y agoIt's not satire nor a real experiment. There is no evidence to take from this. The box the cheese was placed in was a variable as well, so there's no conclusions to take here.
- ggm 8y agoResonant frequency of the holes? /S
- benj111 8y agoDon't know why you added the /s tag, its as good a theory as any other. And will be proved when the experiment is repeated (with different hole structure), and cheese is found to taste better when exposed to some other music genre. Can I borrow your /s tag?
- ggm 8y agoIPR registration pending... (/s)
- jdreyfuss 8y agoMaybe it was the Electric Relaxation that did it
- isostatic 8y agoVery disappointed that the winning genre wasn’t cheese. Some S Club 7 will make your Brie far better.
- maemilius 8y agoThis brings a whole new meaning to culturing cheese.
- spinach 8y agoWould the cheese taste even better if you let the cheese stay at art museums? Wait for part 2 of the experiment where we find what art museum makes cheese taste the best!
- lph 8y agoWow! Yesterday we learned about what happens when dead alligators are dropped to the sea floor of the abyssal plane (a giant isopod smorgasbord), and today we learn about cheese exposed to hip hop. The 2019 IgNobel competition is really heating up.
- polymeris 8y agoI am more curious how they managed to output a 1000 kHz tone through those speakers.
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- booleandilemma 8y agoIs it a coincidence that Jay-Z is always going on about cheddar and spending cheese?
- Baeocystin 8y agoI am disappointed that the result was not titled Moo Bitch Get Out Da Whey. Still, an amusing art project. And I actually would be kind of interested in seeing it done as an actual experiment. Sound waves have a significant effect on plant growth, after all. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S209531191360492X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S209531191...
- comradesmith 8y agoSurely the article is midtoane when it used the unit kHz for the frequencies, the sine waves used were > Low frequency: 25kHz > Medium frequency: 200kHz > High frequency: 1000 kHz All of which are very high and well above the range of human hearing, so I think the units should be Hz instead. Do we have a paper source for this?
- seba_dos1 8y agoSome young people may just reach that "low" range and be able to catch the unpleasant existence of a 25kHz sound source :) I was able to hear it when I was circa 13yo IIRC. But yeah, for an adult, that would be truly exceptional.
- bitwize 8y agoI smell an IgNobel Prize in the offing... or is that just the Jay-Z-infused limburger?
- notacoward 8y agoIt's because of the phat content.
- masonic 8y ago"I gotta stack cheese. I gotta stack cheese!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TRhoE5Cf3k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TRhoE5Cf3k Some may recognize this song from its use in an Avis commercial a few years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPw35jQUGt8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPw35jQUGt8
- rwnspace 8y agoBut how long did they expose it to Roquefort?