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Not to disparage the environmental argument, but for a movement in which a majority of its members also lean socialist I see a lot of arguments that in practice
by tomatotomato37 8y ago
Not to disparage the environmental argument, but for a movement in which a majority of its members also lean socialist I see a lot of arguments that in practice boil down to "Only the 1% should be able to enjoy meat/own personal transport/fly on vacation/etc."
I mean, I don't care if you aim for either "Luxury for all" or "Luxury isn't sustainable" but at least be consistent.
- NeedMoreTea 8y agoWell the only alternative route to reducing consumption, if you don't want it via pricing is legislation bringing forth rationing, or outlawing marketing. I'd imagine both those would be more difficult. It pretty clearly isn't sustainable. So what would you do?
- tomatotomato37 8y agoI'm of the opinion that trying to politically solve any humanitarian issue while the socialeconomic situation is still a clusterfuck would only result in yellow vests burning down your capital while a Trump expy gets elected. Better start investing into sea walls and squirreling away endangered species DNA because it's going be years before we untangle this clusterfuck enough to start slowing the train down
- clarkmoody 8y agoWe can start by eliminating agricultural subsidies and import tariffs, so that market pricing can work to allocate resources to their best use.
- retsibsi 8y agoWhere's the inconsistency? Presumably the socialist environmentalists you refer to want both reduced consumption of products that harm the environment and a massive decrease in inequality. So they don't want 'only the 1%' to be able to afford those things; they want everyone to be able to afford to use them very sparingly.