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But he had only been a 737 Captain since Nov 2017 [1]. And graduated from flight school in 2010. It's unknown what the distribution of the 8000 hours are. For

by vt240 8y ago

But he had only been a 737 Captain since Nov 2017 [1]. And graduated from flight school in 2010. It's unknown what the distribution of the 8000 hours are. For all we know, he had 6000 hours on the Q400. [1]:https://outline.com/dMNAS5 https://outline.com/dMNAS5

sladey 8y ago
Your source doesn't say that he graduated from flight school in 2010, but joined Ethiopian Airlines in 2010. Edit: Source that says he graduated at Ethiopian https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/business/ethiopian-airline-crash-school.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/business/ethiopian-airlin...
- vt240 8y ago
  EA operates their feeder flight school [1]. There is a PR from EA somewhere showing his yearbook photo from their graduating class 2010, but again it was in the Ethiopian press, I forgot to outline it. [1]: https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/EAA/ https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/EAA/
dragontamer 8y ago
The plane has only been in operation since 2017. No one has more than a two years of experience with this plane. If there are significant deviations of the Max8 with the previous 737 models, that would constitute a safety risk IMO. Banning the plane probably wouldn't be the appropriate response, but we would at least ask Boeing to develop proper simulators and training so that Pilots would be more familiar with whatever the issue is.
- kayfox 8y ago
  Yes, but the 737 has been around since 1967, which is what the person your replying to was talking about. Going between the 737 NG and the 737 Max would not be a big change even if they were different type ratings, but going from say some turboprop to a 737 would be a big change. If this pilot was moving up to the 737 from smaller aircraft (which nothing says he did, its just speculation), it seems somewhat likely that he transitioned from either their retired turboprops or the Q400 fleet they have.
  - dragontamer 8y ago
    Hmmm... this seems to address my confusion appropriately. Make sense.
- vt240 8y ago
  EA has other 737 models in their fleet. Their last accident, a 737-800, ET409 [1][2] out of Lebanon, CRM issues were cited as the primary factor. Not arguing with you, and they could have addressed all the training problems. But I don't think the previous accident should be overlooked when speculating. Especially, the fact that EA was hostile to the conclusions of the report. [3] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_409 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_409 [2]: https://www.bea.aero/docspa/2010/et-b100125.en/pdf/et-b100125.en.pdf https://www.bea.aero/docspa/2010/et-b100125.en/pdf/et-b10012... [3]: https://www.isasi.org/Documents/library/technical-papers/2012/9-Managing-A-Major-Accident-Investigation-in-a-Small-Coun.pdf https://www.isasi.org/Documents/library/technical-papers/201...

by vt240 8y ago

sladey 8y ago

Your source doesn't say that he graduated from flight school in 2010, but joined Ethiopian Airlines in 2010. Edit: Source that says he graduated at Ethiopian https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/business/ethiopian-airline-crash-school.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/business/ethiopian-airlin...

vt240 8y ago
EA operates their feeder flight school [1]. There is a PR from EA somewhere showing his yearbook photo from their graduating class 2010, but again it was in the Ethiopian press, I forgot to outline it. [1]: https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/EAA/ https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/EAA/

dragontamer 8y ago

The plane has only been in operation since 2017. No one has more than a two years of experience with this plane. If there are significant deviations of the Max8 with the previous 737 models, that would constitute a safety risk IMO. Banning the plane probably wouldn't be the appropriate response, but we would at least ask Boeing to develop proper simulators and training so that Pilots would be more familiar with whatever the issue is.

kayfox 8y ago
Yes, but the 737 has been around since 1967, which is what the person your replying to was talking about. Going between the 737 NG and the 737 Max would not be a big change even if they were different type ratings, but going from say some turboprop to a 737 would be a big change. If this pilot was moving up to the 737 from smaller aircraft (which nothing says he did, its just speculation), it seems somewhat likely that he transitioned from either their retired turboprops or the Q400 fleet they have.
- dragontamer 8y ago
  Hmmm... this seems to address my confusion appropriately. Make sense.
vt240 8y ago
EA has other 737 models in their fleet. Their last accident, a 737-800, ET409 [1][2] out of Lebanon, CRM issues were cited as the primary factor. Not arguing with you, and they could have addressed all the training problems. But I don't think the previous accident should be overlooked when speculating. Especially, the fact that EA was hostile to the conclusions of the report. [3] [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_409 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Airlines_Flight_409 [2]: https://www.bea.aero/docspa/2010/et-b100125.en/pdf/et-b100125.en.pdf https://www.bea.aero/docspa/2010/et-b100125.en/pdf/et-b10012... [3]: https://www.isasi.org/Documents/library/technical-papers/2012/9-Managing-A-Major-Accident-Investigation-in-a-Small-Coun.pdf https://www.isasi.org/Documents/library/technical-papers/201...