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From Glenn Greenwald’s tweet [1], which is quoted in this article: > “Both Laura & I have full copies of the archives, as do others. The Intercept has given fu

by wtmt 8y ago

From Glenn Greenwald’s tweet [1], which is quoted in this article: > “Both Laura & I have full copies of the archives, as do others. The Intercept has given full access to multiple media orgs, reporters & researchers. I've been looking for the right partner - an academic institution or research facility - that has the funds to robustly publish.” Now this news doesn’t sound all too bad. We probably need more people to host it and/or make it available as torrent downloads. Even if interest has reduced, there could still be more knowledge to gain from it. [1]: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1106015482598043648 https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1106015482598043648

dsr_ 8y ago
There's really very little funding requirement, unless what Greenwald is looking for is a salary for himself. I bet the Internet Archive would be happy to publish it immediately.
- Shank 8y ago
  So, I think a real issue is that it's not made clear how this archive exists. In Citizenfour, it was made clear that Snowden specifically gave the documents to journalists for the purposes of responsible disclosure and reporting. There was the suggestion of publishing the archive in public with all data, but that was shot down as it was too risky in Snowden's eyes. So the archive is mostly a huge collection of documents that have to undergo editing for opsec reasons, so as to not endanger actual people or reveal enough that it might go from "journalism" to "espionage" that warrants a greater release. I don't believe the full archive was ever public. Instead, it was privately held and being maintained by people for research and publication. The Intercept winding this down signifies they no longer care to sift through or maintain the documents. That means that the editing part is gone, and they won't devote further resources internally to it. The decision to host the documents isn't the issue -- moreso the maintenance, reporting, and sourcing.
  - dsr_ 8y ago
    That was nearly six years ago. Secrets should have lifespans, and governments are notoriously bad at ever deciding that a secret should be released.
dplgk 8y ago
The billionaire-funded pet project can't fund it?

by wtmt 8y ago

dsr_ 8y ago

There's really very little funding requirement, unless what Greenwald is looking for is a salary for himself. I bet the Internet Archive would be happy to publish it immediately.

Shank 8y ago
So, I think a real issue is that it's not made clear how this archive exists. In Citizenfour, it was made clear that Snowden specifically gave the documents to journalists for the purposes of responsible disclosure and reporting. There was the suggestion of publishing the archive in public with all data, but that was shot down as it was too risky in Snowden's eyes. So the archive is mostly a huge collection of documents that have to undergo editing for opsec reasons, so as to not endanger actual people or reveal enough that it might go from "journalism" to "espionage" that warrants a greater release. I don't believe the full archive was ever public. Instead, it was privately held and being maintained by people for research and publication. The Intercept winding this down signifies they no longer care to sift through or maintain the documents. That means that the editing part is gone, and they won't devote further resources internally to it. The decision to host the documents isn't the issue -- moreso the maintenance, reporting, and sourcing.
- dsr_ 8y ago
  That was nearly six years ago. Secrets should have lifespans, and governments are notoriously bad at ever deciding that a secret should be released.

dplgk 8y ago

The billionaire-funded pet project can't fund it?