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Donate to the FreeBSD Foundation

48 points by Uncle_Sam 16y ago

JCKa1 16y ago
Direct link to donate: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/
brainlounge 16y ago
If you think the scale scales a bit strange at the upper scales, you are not alone.
- cperciva 16y ago
  Last year the scale went up to 300k, and someone didn't want to move all the lines.
cperciva 16y ago
Just to chime in here: The work the FreeBSD Foundation does is really really important. A lot of what they do is behind the scenes, but things like providing legal advice or ensuring that FreeBSD developers can attend conferences makes the project run much more smoothly than it would otherwise. And if you compare the budgets (~300k vs. ~20M), well, the FreeBSD Foundation needs the money far more than Wikipedia does.
sullrich 16y ago
The work that is currently going on in FreeBSD is amazing. ZFS updates and upgrades. HASTD for replicated ZFS storage between a master and slave pair. vimage for virtualized networking. Wireless mesh support. FreeBSD keeps getting better and a good portion of these improvements where funded directly from the Foundation. The money goes to great projects, please consider giving!
psadauskas 16y ago
Only tangentially related, but if you've ever used ssh, you should also donate to the OpenBSD Foundation. http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/
- cperciva 16y ago
  I think there would be far more donations if people could donate to OpenSSH rather than donating to OpenBSD. Theo loves to use OpenSSH to guilt-trip people into donating, but there's no guarantee that donations will, in fact, end up supporting OpenSSH at all.
  - there 16y ago
    that's like saying you'll donate to wikipedia only if it's used to pay for the bandwidth used by a single page on the site. openssh is developed in the openbsd tree, by openbsd developers. there are infrastructure, travel, equipment, and other costs that can't be decoupled from openbsd work. if you want to support openssh, support openbsd developers. i'm sure if someone stepped up and sponsored an openssh-specific hackathon, they could be "guaranteed" that their money was directly funding more openssh work than openbsd work. but, not surprisingly, nobody's ever done that.
    - cperciva 16y ago
      that's like saying you'll donate to wikipedia only if it's used to pay for the bandwidth used by a single page on the site. No, because wikipedia isn't going out and saying "you should support us because we have a page about Hacker News". They say that we should support them for everything they do. What Theo is would be like me saying "if you use bsdiff, you should pay me to work on FreeBSD" -- bsdiff is a small part of FreeBSD, and only a very small amount of the time I spend on FreeBSD is even remotely related to bsdiff.
      - there 16y ago
        No, because wikipedia isn't going out and saying "you should support us because we have a page about Hacker News". They say that we should support them for everything they do. of course, because allocating a donation to a specific page would be nearly impossible. just as allocating openbsd donations to specific commits on src/usr.bin/ssh is difficult and not worth the time. What Theo is would be like me saying "if you use bsdiff, you should pay me to work on FreeBSD" -- bsdiff is a small part of FreeBSD, and only a very small amount of the time I spend on FreeBSD is even remotely related to bsdiff. if a critical component of my commercial product offering was bsdiff, i would certainly donate to freebsd (or wherever you directed donations, being the author) to see its continued development.

48 points by Uncle_Sam 16y ago

JCKa1 16y ago

Direct link to donate: http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/ http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/donate/

brainlounge 16y ago

If you think the scale scales a bit strange at the upper scales, you are not alone.

cperciva 16y ago
Last year the scale went up to 300k, and someone didn't want to move all the lines.

cperciva 16y ago

Just to chime in here: The work the FreeBSD Foundation does is really really important. A lot of what they do is behind the scenes, but things like providing legal advice or ensuring that FreeBSD developers can attend conferences makes the project run much more smoothly than it would otherwise. And if you compare the budgets (~300k vs. ~20M), well, the FreeBSD Foundation needs the money far more than Wikipedia does.

sullrich 16y ago

The work that is currently going on in FreeBSD is amazing. ZFS updates and upgrades. HASTD for replicated ZFS storage between a master and slave pair. vimage for virtualized networking. Wireless mesh support. FreeBSD keeps getting better and a good portion of these improvements where funded directly from the Foundation. The money goes to great projects, please consider giving!

psadauskas 16y ago

Only tangentially related, but if you've ever used ssh, you should also donate to the OpenBSD Foundation. http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/ http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/

cperciva 16y ago
I think there would be far more donations if people could donate to OpenSSH rather than donating to OpenBSD. Theo loves to use OpenSSH to guilt-trip people into donating, but there's no guarantee that donations will, in fact, end up supporting OpenSSH at all.
- there 16y ago
  that's like saying you'll donate to wikipedia only if it's used to pay for the bandwidth used by a single page on the site. openssh is developed in the openbsd tree, by openbsd developers. there are infrastructure, travel, equipment, and other costs that can't be decoupled from openbsd work. if you want to support openssh, support openbsd developers. i'm sure if someone stepped up and sponsored an openssh-specific hackathon, they could be "guaranteed" that their money was directly funding more openssh work than openbsd work. but, not surprisingly, nobody's ever done that.
  - cperciva 16y ago
    that's like saying you'll donate to wikipedia only if it's used to pay for the bandwidth used by a single page on the site. No, because wikipedia isn't going out and saying "you should support us because we have a page about Hacker News". They say that we should support them for everything they do. What Theo is would be like me saying "if you use bsdiff, you should pay me to work on FreeBSD" -- bsdiff is a small part of FreeBSD, and only a very small amount of the time I spend on FreeBSD is even remotely related to bsdiff.
    - there 16y ago
      No, because wikipedia isn't going out and saying "you should support us because we have a page about Hacker News". They say that we should support them for everything they do. of course, because allocating a donation to a specific page would be nearly impossible. just as allocating openbsd donations to specific commits on src/usr.bin/ssh is difficult and not worth the time. What Theo is would be like me saying "if you use bsdiff, you should pay me to work on FreeBSD" -- bsdiff is a small part of FreeBSD, and only a very small amount of the time I spend on FreeBSD is even remotely related to bsdiff. if a critical component of my commercial product offering was bsdiff, i would certainly donate to freebsd (or wherever you directed donations, being the author) to see its continued development.