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I agree the piece isn't very informative and is very scattered. That being said, this is definitely the most questionable thing: > "When he was younger, he was

I agree the piece isn't very informative and is very scattered. That being said, this is definitely the most questionable thing: > "When he was younger, he was arrested on drunk-driving charges" That will follow him into the campaign far more than his CDC membership.

edaemon 8y ago
That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact.
- burfog 8y ago
  It was a close race, and he lost. That seems like an impact.
  - dvtrn 8y ago
    This after that, therefore because of that-you say?
  - ceejayoz 8y ago
    A Democrat losing in a race in Texas isn't exactly a shocking development.
    - akhilcacharya 8y ago
      And he did significantly better than most people and polls expected he'd do. 3 points, getting more votes than Hillary and Obama in a midterm year through persuasion more than turnout.
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact. A very actively contested Presidential primary isn't the same thing as a House or Senate race, and he didn't win the Senate race, either.
  - edaemon 8y ago
    That's true. I mostly meant that it isn't a new development, it's been in the news before.
mruts 8y ago
Is being arrested for drunken driving materially different than having not been arrested while drunken driving? And hasn’t pretty much almost anyone driven drunk at least once?
- lukewink 8y ago
  > And hasn’t pretty much almost anyone driven drunk at least once? No...
  - mruts 8y ago
    By drunk I mean above the legal BAC. It’s pretty easy to have a few beers and be above the legal limit.
    - dagw 8y ago
      It's also pretty easy to have a few beers and not drive
      - mruts 8y ago
        I wouldn’t call it very easy. You drive to a place and have some beers. Then you have the choice of leaving your car or drive above the BAC. Most people choose the latter.
        dragonwriter 8y ago
        > I wouldn’t call it very easy Yes it is. > You drive to a place and have some beers. It's quite easy to decide not to drive to a place if you are going to have a few beers over too short of a time to safely and legally drive home, or to choose not to have too many beers if you need to drive to and from the place.
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- danso 8y ago
krapp 8y ago
>> "When he was younger, he was arrested on drunk-driving charges" >That will follow him into the campaign far more than his CDC membership. Will it? It didn't hurt George W. Bush. Admitting to smoking pot didn't hurt Obama. And Donald Trump... Jesus wept, Donald Trump.
- s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
  Smoking pot is not the same as endangering lives. Also Donald Trump doesn't drink, let-alone drink and drive. There's few crimes that are more dangerous than drinking and driving.
  - krapp 8y ago
    The point is that these people all have incidents in their past which should, in theory, have hurt them politically, but which in practice, didn't.
    - s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
      And my point is not all past incidents are created equal. So it's hard to compare the effects.

edaemon 8y ago

That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact.

burfog 8y ago
It was a close race, and he lost. That seems like an impact.
- dvtrn 8y ago
  This after that, therefore because of that-you say?
- ceejayoz 8y ago
  A Democrat losing in a race in Texas isn't exactly a shocking development.
  - akhilcacharya 8y ago
    And he did significantly better than most people and polls expected he'd do. 3 points, getting more votes than Hillary and Obama in a midterm year through persuasion more than turnout.
dragonwriter 8y ago
> That will certainly be brought up in the campaign, but it was brought up in his House races and the Senate race and didn't seem to have much of an impact. A very actively contested Presidential primary isn't the same thing as a House or Senate race, and he didn't win the Senate race, either.
- edaemon 8y ago
  That's true. I mostly meant that it isn't a new development, it's been in the news before.

mruts 8y ago

Is being arrested for drunken driving materially different than having not been arrested while drunken driving? And hasn’t pretty much almost anyone driven drunk at least once?

lukewink 8y ago
> And hasn’t pretty much almost anyone driven drunk at least once? No...
- mruts 8y ago
  By drunk I mean above the legal BAC. It’s pretty easy to have a few beers and be above the legal limit.
  - dagw 8y ago
    It's also pretty easy to have a few beers and not drive
    - mruts 8y ago
      I wouldn’t call it very easy. You drive to a place and have some beers. Then you have the choice of leaving your car or drive above the BAC. Most people choose the latter.
      - dragonwriter 8y ago
        > I wouldn’t call it very easy Yes it is. > You drive to a place and have some beers. It's quite easy to decide not to drive to a place if you are going to have a few beers over too short of a time to safely and legally drive home, or to choose not to have too many beers if you need to drive to and from the place.
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danso 8y ago

krapp 8y ago

>> "When he was younger, he was arrested on drunk-driving charges" >That will follow him into the campaign far more than his CDC membership. Will it? It didn't hurt George W. Bush. Admitting to smoking pot didn't hurt Obama. And Donald Trump... Jesus wept, Donald Trump.

s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
Smoking pot is not the same as endangering lives. Also Donald Trump doesn't drink, let-alone drink and drive. There's few crimes that are more dangerous than drinking and driving.
- krapp 8y ago
  The point is that these people all have incidents in their past which should, in theory, have hurt them politically, but which in practice, didn't.
  - s_y_n_t_a_x 8y ago
    And my point is not all past incidents are created equal. So it's hard to compare the effects.