> and much of the EU internet traffic, including to/from germany, goes through the UK. Indeed - and many German citizens who are interested in such topics find

> and much of the EU internet traffic, including to/from germany, goes through the UK. Indeed - and many German citizens who are interested in such topics find this concerning exactly because of Five Eyes. My comment that Germany is not part of Five Eyes > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19399560 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19399560 refers to its grandparent > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19398858 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19398858 which I requote here: "Western governments have historically been allied with and have had intelligence sharing and cooperation arrangements with the U.S. There is a general alignment of Western intelligence agencies as a cooperative group against the antagonism of China (and Russia, NK, etc) It isn't just "everybody spies" - it's "we are actively engaged in an adversarial relationship together against this other group"".