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> There will be many models launched before 2022. And there have been many models launched before today. None are even close to model S levels of production vo
by sergiosgc 8y ago
> There will be many models launched before 2022.
And there have been many models launched before today. None are even close to model S levels of production volume, performance, range and battery durability.
If your reference is the Porsche Taycan, it is the equivalent to the Tesla Roadster: a low volume proof of concept. It is already more than ten years late (the Roadster launched in '08). If your reference is anything based on VW's MEB (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda), add two years to publicized launch dates, as the MEB went back to the drawing board, deemed under-specced for what the market expects from EVs. This means production plants have not yet started to get designed, much less built, and are waiting on platform redesign and approval.
- clouddrover 8y agoYou really should read and view the links. Both the Porsche Taycan and the Audi e-tron GT are in the Model S's category, and they're both much nicer cars. The Porsche Taycan will charge faster than any Tesla and won't suffer the Model S's overheating issues: http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that-the-tesla-model-s-is-an-awful-track-car http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that...
- rcMgD2BwE72F 8y ago>The Porsche Taycan will charge faster than any Tesla Where?
- clouddrover 8y agoAt every 350 kW charger: https://insideevs.com/first-ionity-350-kw-chargers-denmark/ https://insideevs.com/first-ionity-350-kw-chargers-denmark/ When will Tesla introduce 350 kW charging?
- labcomputer 8y agoI think you mean: you speculate that the GT and Taycan will be in same category as the Model S and will be nicer than the roadster. Since literally nobody outside of VAG has sat in one. You may also want to walk back the claims about overheating. In one of the press videos, a Porsche engineer explicitly says that the number of hard accelerations over a short time will be limited to 10, or so.
- clouddrover 8y ago> Since literally nobody outside of VAG has sat in one. Here's a person sitting in one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNw15W_EK8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvNw15W_EK8 Here's another person sitting in one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ And yet another person sitting in one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2i8uS_q6kE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2i8uS_q6kE And another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZFcjJ-PCbs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZFcjJ-PCbs Is that literal enough?
- xedeon 8y agoTake a look at this: https://www.wired.com/2009/12/audis-electric-e-tron-is-real-and-coming-soon/ https://www.wired.com/2009/12/audis-electric-e-tron-is-real-... That article is from 2009, a full decade ago. It's a prime example why people are very weary when it comes to VAG announcing concept EVs. It's not a contender until I can actually purchase one. Any car manufacturer can create a concept EV with relative ease. That's the easy part. Taking it to production (especially at scale) is the hardest part.
- clouddrover 8y agoThat was then, this is now. The investments have been made and the direction has been set. There's no point trying to concoct a narrative that this is all somehow vaporware. You can pre-order your VW ID Neo in 7 weeks: https://electrek.co/2019/03/13/vw-id-electric-hatchback-pre-orders-open-may-8-production-september/ https://electrek.co/2019/03/13/vw-id-electric-hatchback-pre-...
- collinmanderson 8y agoAmazing. They had a police motorcade surrounding them.