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> harassment campaigns on twitter (and awkward / faked claims they were harassed) That /r/kotakuinaction organised harassment campaigns and that they faked har

> harassment campaigns on twitter (and awkward / faked claims they were harassed) That /r/kotakuinaction organised harassment campaigns and that they faked harassment claims is a pretty harmful accusation, care to back it up with some evidence?

duxup 8y ago
No I don't care to. It is a fact, they even organized it on that subreddit... it was out in the open at the time it occurred. Anyone who read that sub at that time had a chance to see them explicitly discuss and organize it. Gamergate is really a topic that folks who want to belive are going to belive, and no amount of linking is going to change anyone's mind. You literally had folks posting their tweets from their account(s) and then if things went bad that same user would claim that same twitter account was a fake account someone else made to make them look bad. It's just one of those things that I found not to be worth getting into a googling / link fight about, just as a personal policy. People can make of that what they will / not belive me, but it not worth linking to it as I find folks will belive what they're going to belive anyway.
- DuskStar 8y ago
  Also as personal policy, when someone asserts something, is asked for evidence, and then comes back with "it's really well known and I'm not going to provide evidence for it", I assume that means they looked for evidence and couldn't find any. Lots of things are commonly known in a subgroup despite having no primary sources. That may not be the case here, but it's a better policy than taking things on faith in my opinion.
  - duxup 8y ago
    I understand and respect that.
- dangerface 8y ago
  If you can't or wont back up your claim then its unsubstantiated not fact. > Gamergate is really a topic that folks who want to belive are going to belive, and no amount of linking is going to change anyone's mind. Another opinion I don't share. I would rather give people the opportunity to prove me wrong so that I can have the benefit of changing my mind and being right. I hope you enjoy your beliefs.
  - duxup 8y ago
    I can say the sky is blue and not link to anything that says so... it's still a fact. I can understand someone who doesn't know not believing me, that's understandable and I respect that.
scatters 8y ago
A harmful accusation? To a hate subreddit? Surely you jest.

duxup 8y ago

No I don't care to. It is a fact, they even organized it on that subreddit... it was out in the open at the time it occurred. Anyone who read that sub at that time had a chance to see them explicitly discuss and organize it. Gamergate is really a topic that folks who want to belive are going to belive, and no amount of linking is going to change anyone's mind. You literally had folks posting their tweets from their account(s) and then if things went bad that same user would claim that same twitter account was a fake account someone else made to make them look bad. It's just one of those things that I found not to be worth getting into a googling / link fight about, just as a personal policy. People can make of that what they will / not belive me, but it not worth linking to it as I find folks will belive what they're going to belive anyway.

DuskStar 8y ago
Also as personal policy, when someone asserts something, is asked for evidence, and then comes back with "it's really well known and I'm not going to provide evidence for it", I assume that means they looked for evidence and couldn't find any. Lots of things are commonly known in a subgroup despite having no primary sources. That may not be the case here, but it's a better policy than taking things on faith in my opinion.
- duxup 8y ago
  I understand and respect that.
dangerface 8y ago
If you can't or wont back up your claim then its unsubstantiated not fact. > Gamergate is really a topic that folks who want to belive are going to belive, and no amount of linking is going to change anyone's mind. Another opinion I don't share. I would rather give people the opportunity to prove me wrong so that I can have the benefit of changing my mind and being right. I hope you enjoy your beliefs.
- duxup 8y ago
  I can say the sky is blue and not link to anything that says so... it's still a fact. I can understand someone who doesn't know not believing me, that's understandable and I respect that.

scatters 8y ago

A harmful accusation? To a hate subreddit? Surely you jest.