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> Look, this isn't mysterious. Rich people are associated with evil in films, and their stereotypical "too-good" pursuits -- mansions, opera halls, tuxedos, and

> Look, this isn't mysterious. Rich people are associated with evil in films, and their stereotypical "too-good" pursuits -- mansions, opera halls, tuxedos, and yes, classical music. I don't think it's that simple. Rich people today are more modernists than classicists. They live in modern buildings and listen to any music. They work in modern office buildings. Classicism is about man vs man. Man vs nature, man vs God. The fight between two men, is a classic conflict. Modernism does not celebrate the fight between men, it cannot without undermining its fight with the self, it's fight with the non-existence of God. A fight between two men is classical in western literature, hence the classical themes when a fight on film breaks out.

maldusiecle 8y ago
This entire comment rests on confusing the meaning of the word "classical." A rich person who listens to modernist composers like Boulez or Webern is still listening to "classical" music, as most people use the term. Classical in this instance refers to a particular music tradition beginning in the renaissance, not to the Greco-Roman stuff you're trying to get at. It begins with the death of God, not ends with it.
- friendlybus 8y ago
  It is a literary version of the word classical. I agree people have made classical music in the modern era and the categories are different in music to writing. Just saying the train of thought when writing a conflict into a story is the classical approach is to have man vs nature, man vs man, man vs god. Modernist is man vs society, man vs self and man vs no god. Postmodernist would be man vs technology, man vs reality and man vs author. So the choosing of a backing music to fit a written fight would be reminiscent of the classical thinking that celebrates man vs man fights. Hans Zimmer would be the more modern composer that celebrates conquering the self in interstellar/inception, ect.

maldusiecle 8y ago

This entire comment rests on confusing the meaning of the word "classical." A rich person who listens to modernist composers like Boulez or Webern is still listening to "classical" music, as most people use the term. Classical in this instance refers to a particular music tradition beginning in the renaissance, not to the Greco-Roman stuff you're trying to get at. It begins with the death of God, not ends with it.

friendlybus 8y ago
It is a literary version of the word classical. I agree people have made classical music in the modern era and the categories are different in music to writing. Just saying the train of thought when writing a conflict into a story is the classical approach is to have man vs nature, man vs man, man vs god. Modernist is man vs society, man vs self and man vs no god. Postmodernist would be man vs technology, man vs reality and man vs author. So the choosing of a backing music to fit a written fight would be reminiscent of the classical thinking that celebrates man vs man fights. Hans Zimmer would be the more modern composer that celebrates conquering the self in interstellar/inception, ect.