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A big problem is also that Wikipedia doesnt get rid of contributors pushing a bias and sabotaging wikipedia pages. Jörg Matthias Claudius Grünewald "Feliks" is

A big problem is also that Wikipedia doesnt get rid of contributors pushing a bias and sabotaging wikipedia pages. Jörg Matthias Claudius Grünewald "Feliks" is just a rather prominent example in the German Wikipedia.

jgtrosh 8y ago
I suppose an argument against banning such profiles is that it's easier to spot a consistently bad actor than to try to play whack-a-mole with new profiles.
mikorym 8y ago
> Jörg Matthias Claudius Grünewald "Feliks" is just a rather prominent example Could you elaborate?
- Semaphor 8y ago
  I googled the name, all sources I could find are German, most seem to be from the conspiracy theory and right wing area. He's apparently an editor who used to be anonymous, converted to judaism and is said to behave manipulatively. But as I said, can't really find reliable information.
  - cf141q5325 8y ago
    The far right had to suffer the most, but there are also plenty of left wing politicians who had to suffer from his "manipulation". There was a great article about it at nachdenkseiten but they deleted it. No wonder since he sued anyone mentioning him. https://web.archive.org/web/20180908111231/https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=45899 https://web.archive.org/web/20180908111231/https://www.nachd... edit: To give an example, he deleted any mention on human rights violations in Facility 1391 with the argument, that Israel investigated the reports and found no evidence of any wrongdoing. Thats still where the page is today, different to the english version. For other individuals, like Nirit Sommerfeld he altered their Wikipedia page to push them into antisemetic corners.
    - Semaphor 8y ago
      Why is this downvoted? The nachdenkseiten article has a lot of information and is certainly a better source than what I could find.
      - mg794613 8y ago
        I wonder the same. There is nothing in this post to down vote BUT disagreement. Which brings me to another point;has HN acquired so much weight, thatbots are now also here to manipulate informations streams?
        NeedMoreTea 8y ago
        It certainly feels that way sometimes, or HNers are just as susceptible as everyone else to the polarisation that seems to affect everything today.

jgtrosh 8y ago

I suppose an argument against banning such profiles is that it's easier to spot a consistently bad actor than to try to play whack-a-mole with new profiles.

mikorym 8y ago

> Jörg Matthias Claudius Grünewald "Feliks" is just a rather prominent example Could you elaborate?

Semaphor 8y ago
I googled the name, all sources I could find are German, most seem to be from the conspiracy theory and right wing area. He's apparently an editor who used to be anonymous, converted to judaism and is said to behave manipulatively. But as I said, can't really find reliable information.
- cf141q5325 8y ago
  The far right had to suffer the most, but there are also plenty of left wing politicians who had to suffer from his "manipulation". There was a great article about it at nachdenkseiten but they deleted it. No wonder since he sued anyone mentioning him. https://web.archive.org/web/20180908111231/https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=45899 https://web.archive.org/web/20180908111231/https://www.nachd... edit: To give an example, he deleted any mention on human rights violations in Facility 1391 with the argument, that Israel investigated the reports and found no evidence of any wrongdoing. Thats still where the page is today, different to the english version. For other individuals, like Nirit Sommerfeld he altered their Wikipedia page to push them into antisemetic corners.
  - Semaphor 8y ago
    Why is this downvoted? The nachdenkseiten article has a lot of information and is certainly a better source than what I could find.
    - mg794613 8y ago
      I wonder the same. There is nothing in this post to down vote BUT disagreement. Which brings me to another point;has HN acquired so much weight, thatbots are now also here to manipulate informations streams?
      - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
        It certainly feels that way sometimes, or HNers are just as susceptible as everyone else to the polarisation that seems to affect everything today.