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The cases of "surging" where people claimed they were pressing hard on the brake when the car lept forward come to mind. (The most credible explanation is they

The cases of "surging" where people claimed they were pressing hard on the brake when the car lept forward come to mind. (The most credible explanation is they put their foot on the gas instead, or are simply trying deflect blame away from themselves for the crash.)

pfdietz 8y ago
That's not the most credible explanation. http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/pubs/koopman14_toyota_ua_slides.pdf http://users.ece.cmu.edu/~koopman/pubs/koopman14_toyota_ua_s...
- skookumchuck 8y ago
  I don't buy it. Heck, I've even stepped on the gas instead of the brake. Besides, the brakes are much more effective than that little Toyota engine is. Try it yourself. Go full throttle and step hard on the brake. You'll stop.
  - pfdietz 8y ago
    Look at slide 8.
    - skookumchuck 8y ago
      With wide open throttle, why would the power brakes lose vacuum? Vacuum is lost when the engine quits. Besides, just to stand on one foot requires 100 lbs of force exerted on your foot. If you can walk, you can do that. Pressing with 175 lbs is not a problem. The point is, the brakes can override the engine torque. Unless, of course, you're standing on the gas instead of the brake. You can also just turn the key off on a runaway engine.