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I'm confused why the "Safety for women" section doesn't contain anything that specifically targets women. I believe male safety is a concern of equal importance

I'm confused why the "Safety for women" section doesn't contain anything that specifically targets women. I believe male safety is a concern of equal importance.

krapp 8y ago
Every one of those bullet points is an issue which predominantly affects women versus men. Implying that an equal amount of men are stalked and harassed online and sent unsolicited nude pictures is simply incorrect. Male safety in this regard is not of equal importance because male risk is so low in proportion as to be practically nonexistent. IIRC, Tumblr users tend more often to be women, so it makes sense to advertise features towards women for a site whose intent is to draw in former Tumblr users. But... the site doesn't say those features are only available for women, so given that they're available for men as well, I don't see what the concern is.
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- scrollaway 8y ago
  You're conflating importance and need, I think. It's as important, even if there is less need for it. We value lives equally, even though some need more protection than others.
  - krapp 8y ago
    As long as the actual featureset is available to everyone, there's no issue with unequal treatment, and nothing for men to be concerned about. However, there's still little point in mentioning men, specifically, when advertising those features to a primarily female demographic with those specific concerns.
nyolfen 8y ago
that's because the point is to signal that they're only tolerant of progressives. see also the definition of hate speech that covers a sincere and common religious belief.
- thosakwe 8y ago
  So, a ban on hate speech means, to you, that they’re only tolerant of progressives...?
  - nyolfen 8y ago
    a definition of hate speech that expansive does. if i they had defined hate speech on their platform as expressing opinions in favor of gay marriage, how would you feel about it?

I'm confused why the "Safety for women" section doesn't contain anything that specifically targets women. I believe male safety is a concern of equal importance.

krapp 8y ago

Every one of those bullet points is an issue which predominantly affects women versus men. Implying that an equal amount of men are stalked and harassed online and sent unsolicited nude pictures is simply incorrect. Male safety in this regard is not of equal importance because male risk is so low in proportion as to be practically nonexistent. IIRC, Tumblr users tend more often to be women, so it makes sense to advertise features towards women for a site whose intent is to draw in former Tumblr users. But... the site doesn't say those features are only available for women, so given that they're available for men as well, I don't see what the concern is.

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scrollaway 8y ago
You're conflating importance and need, I think. It's as important, even if there is less need for it. We value lives equally, even though some need more protection than others.
- krapp 8y ago
  As long as the actual featureset is available to everyone, there's no issue with unequal treatment, and nothing for men to be concerned about. However, there's still little point in mentioning men, specifically, when advertising those features to a primarily female demographic with those specific concerns.

nyolfen 8y ago

that's because the point is to signal that they're only tolerant of progressives. see also the definition of hate speech that covers a sincere and common religious belief.

thosakwe 8y ago
So, a ban on hate speech means, to you, that they’re only tolerant of progressives...?
- nyolfen 8y ago
  a definition of hate speech that expansive does. if i they had defined hate speech on their platform as expressing opinions in favor of gay marriage, how would you feel about it?