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Why not just make a remote desktop / VCN connection to the server?

bluedevilzn 8y ago
Haven't tried it but I'm assuming it's much much smoother.
morpheuskafka 8y ago
VNC over the internet is not pretty. Plus X Windows has to be installed on what might otherwise be a headless server. Windows is lightyears ahead of Linux on remote desktop, so it would probably be fine on that.
pfranz 8y ago
More often than not, working seriously through vnc/remote desktop is miserable and a last resort. Some people don't seem to mind though. I'm curious if their productivity suffers? It works fine for checking on things, but it's a window-in-a-window, copy/paste never consistently works (no matter the server/client software), I haven't seen good solutions for audio, scaling/resolution, and bandwidth/latency vary greatly. It's made me get much better with ssh/terminal/vim and pushed me further away from an IDE. I can see a webapp being a decent compromise. I think most people are fine with Gdocs over Word/Excel.
- sjellis 8y ago
  Teradici is really good, and amazingly efficient on bandwidth. The Teradici company license their technology to other vendors: it's what AWS Workspaces uses.
  - pfranz 8y ago
    I tried it last year and Teradici seemed to work really well when you were in the same region (time zone-ish size area) or using an internal LAN with a decent connection. For low latency or low bandwidth situations VNC worked way better. VNC also had a lot more options for tuning. Another issue I had was that they had me set up a vpn for Teradici, while for vnc I'm just ssh tunneling the port.
    - sjellis 8y ago
      "vpn for Teradici" This is probably why it wasn't so good. I've only used the AWS Workspaces client, which handles encryption, and that worked even on 4G connections.
fartcannon 8y ago
SSH and VIM... since 1995. Best feature: no telemetry.
paxys 8y ago
Transferring text data to power IDE functionality is a lot smoother and faster than streaming a full desktop over the internet.

Haven't tried it but I'm assuming it's much much smoother.

VNC over the internet is not pretty. Plus X Windows has to be installed on what might otherwise be a headless server. Windows is lightyears ahead of Linux on remote desktop, so it would probably be fine on that.

pfranz 8y ago

More often than not, working seriously through vnc/remote desktop is miserable and a last resort. Some people don't seem to mind though. I'm curious if their productivity suffers? It works fine for checking on things, but it's a window-in-a-window, copy/paste never consistently works (no matter the server/client software), I haven't seen good solutions for audio, scaling/resolution, and bandwidth/latency vary greatly. It's made me get much better with ssh/terminal/vim and pushed me further away from an IDE. I can see a webapp being a decent compromise. I think most people are fine with Gdocs over Word/Excel.

sjellis 8y ago
Teradici is really good, and amazingly efficient on bandwidth. The Teradici company license their technology to other vendors: it's what AWS Workspaces uses.
- pfranz 8y ago
  I tried it last year and Teradici seemed to work really well when you were in the same region (time zone-ish size area) or using an internal LAN with a decent connection. For low latency or low bandwidth situations VNC worked way better. VNC also had a lot more options for tuning. Another issue I had was that they had me set up a vpn for Teradici, while for vnc I'm just ssh tunneling the port.
  - sjellis 8y ago
    "vpn for Teradici" This is probably why it wasn't so good. I've only used the AWS Workspaces client, which handles encryption, and that worked even on 4G connections.

fartcannon 8y ago

SSH and VIM... since 1995. Best feature: no telemetry.

paxys 8y ago

Transferring text data to power IDE functionality is a lot smoother and faster than streaming a full desktop over the internet.