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Some theories: 1. Rebranding Facebook as secure and private 2. If this increases usage, more opportunity to display ads 3. Their data shows they gain more in
by hashberry 8y ago
Some theories:
1. Rebranding Facebook as secure and private
2. If this increases usage, more opportunity to display ads
3. Their data shows they gain more information by monitoring what people publicly share, not say in private
4. Removes all responsibility to work with law enforcement and governments for illegal activity, since it's encrypted
- ilovecaching 8y agoCould you ever consider that Zuck has enough money, and that he really believes in making a product to connect people for the greater good and use ads to make it available to everyone?
- iaabtpbtpnn 8y agoNo, because Facebook is a public for-profit company, not a non-profit seeking to benefit society.
- AceJohnny2 8y agoIf someone had told me 15 years ago that Bill Gates would become one the greatest philanthopists of our generation, I would've laughed in their face.
- Pharmakon 8y agoWhy? Some of the most venal, greedy, and ruthless people in history made their money then turned to philanthropy to improve their image. I would argue that it was downright predictable, and so would Alfred Nobel. In fact using charity to either improve your public image (as in Gates and many others) is probably only matched by people like Jimmy Saville using charity to give themselves license to continue committing crimes. What’s surprising to me is that it still works!
- praneshp 8y agoRight, the then world's richest started a charitable trust purely so he could improve his public image.
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- dralley 8y agoI'm sure the competitive drive to dominate (in generosity) plays a role. Look at the rivalry between Rockefeller and Carnegie for example. Once they grew old and their companies either bought out (Carnegie) or broken up by the feds (Rockefeller) they basically switched to seeing who could get their names put on the most public buildings by building libraries, universities, etc.
- ficklepickle 8y agoWhat else is he going to do? At that level of wealth, the marginal returns on greed have diminished to almost zero. So one must find another way to feed ones ego. What is left apart from fulfilling the god complex and saving the world? Edit: has->have
- praneshp 8y ago> What is left apart from fulfilling the god complex and saving the world? Well one thing I can think of is wanting to make the world better
- abraae 8y agoThat's a pretty dark view. I imagine that Gates played to win in business, as many others do, it's just that he was particularly good at it. Now he's playing hard and to win in philanthropy. I doubt he gives 2 bits what the average person thinks of him, at least not enough to throw money at rehabilitating his image. If that was his goal, his philanthropy targets would be different.
- floatrock 8y agoAs a person, maybe if I squint very very very hard. Legally, he has a duty to maximize value for his board and investors. And there hasn't been a business model that provides a free consumer web product without monetizing user data.
- smrq 8y agoWhy does this shareholder value meme keep getting perpetuated?
- floatrock 8y agoBecause that's who a CEO reports to and that's how a CEO gets fired. Some CEO's like Elon and Jobs can spin a great story and hold on by sheer force of personality, but pension funds aren't buying FB in bulk to get more green cars on the road.
- vonmoltke 8y ago> Because that's who a CEO reports to and that's how a CEO gets fired. That has nothing to do with the legal requirements of the company or the CEO. That would be the same as saying I am "legally required" to go to work tomorrow, because I could get fired for not showing up.
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- jacquesm 8y ago> Legally, he has a duty to maximize value for his board members and investors. Please stop repeating that nonsense.
- reaperducer 8y agoLegally, he has a duty to maximize value for his board and investors You should probably stop using the word "legally" in this context. There have been thousands of companies over the decades that put other things before shareholder value, and somehow managed to not run afoul of the law. Also, it might help if you provided a citation to this law to bolster your argument. And there hasn't been a business model that provides a free consumer web product without monetizing user data. Also false.
- na85 8y agoThat's irreconcilable with his actions. Why would a person who believes those things have made the "dumb fucks" quote?
- thundergolfer 8y agoI'm no fan of Zuckerberg, but he said that quote over a decade ago, and people can change their beliefs and values.
- jacquesm 8y agoHe's done plenty in that decade that affirms the quote.
- cronix 8y agoAll of his fairly recent congressional "testimony" fills in the gaps quite nicely. He might not have used identical curse words, but, to me, the same attitude shown through quite brightly. I really don't see a change whatsoever.
- na85 8y agoYes, people can. He very obviously hasn't.
- fucking_tragedy 8y agoThat's a nice ideal, but Zuckerberg hasn't lived up to it.
- rkho 8y agoI see that quote being referenced a lot, and given when it was made I'm curious what it says about whether or not we believe that people have the capacity to change.
- reaperducer 8y agoDo something mildly stupid when you're 20, and if someone finds out about it when you're 40, you lose your job. That's the upside-down society we live in today.
- renholder 8y ago>...and use ads to make it available to everyone? Could you ever believe that's not all that he does with ads?
- stingraycharles 8y agoPrivately he has enough money, sure, but as the CEO of Facebook he has a responsibility to maximize the value of the company. Personally I believe he should pull a Bill Gates, hand over the reigns and take his philanthropy private.
- jacquesm 8y agoNot a chance. I'd trust him about as far as I could throw him. If there is one exec of a major web property that has lost all benefit of the doubt then it is Mark Zuckerberg.
- fucking_tragedy 8y agoNo, because I wasn't born yesterday. There is no limit to human greed or hubris. Facebook is a publicly traded company and is expected to maximize value for its shareholders.
- ENGNR 8y agoA common feature request for my app: remove FB login! These are users who didn't even use it. But just seeing the Facebook login option there next to email (it was the only OAuth) gave them the creeps. These aren't tech savvy users either, just regular small town businesses I think Facebook has a long, long, long way to go towards brand repair before anyone can 'trust' it in any way
- moosey 8y agoMany facebook buttons are trackers. I can understand people's nervousness.
- 908087 8y agoThe use of Facebook login immediately makes me suspicious of any site/service's overall security and privacy practices.
- jniedrauer 8y agoHave you ever looked at what exactly those facebook login buttons load? I don't feel safe browsing sites with facebook integration anymore unless I'm running uMatrix or am in a container.
- ficklepickle 8y agoUgh it is actually outrageous. On client sites, I use an icon and an anchor tag with noopener/noreferrer. One client really wanted Facebook login so I had to make a Facebook account. That was a dark day. On a somewhat related note, that business is no longer operating. I still host their site for free, partly out of smugness as they took none of my advice.
- elliekelly 8y agoDoes uBlock stop Facebook tracking? Or is there such a thing as Faceblock?
- jniedrauer 8y agouMatrix plus the firefox facebook container plugin goes a long way...