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Because paper ballots increase the cost of manipulating elections.
by hansjorg 8y ago
Because paper ballots increase the cost of manipulating elections.
- Pharmakon 8y agoIronically the one recent confirmed case of a rigged election in the U.S. was rigged through paper absentee ballots.
- buzzerbetrayed 8y agoIs it really ironic when pretty much all voting is done with paper? Of course the rigged voting would have been through paper ballots when that is what we use.
- Pharmakon 8y agoIt’s ironic when I’m responding to someone framing the use of paper ballots as a security feature, yes.
- jacques_chester 8y agoAnd it was detected. That's a big part of the advantage of paper ballots. The cost of subversion is high because more people need to be in on any conspiracy to subvert the system. More conspirators means more and more incentive to defect against co-conspirators. Electronic systems do not scale subversion cost with electorate size. But they do scale the payoff of subversion.
- brenschluss 8y agoThis is survivorship bias. Instead: 1. Assume that there are enough high-powered actors to want to rig an election 2. Note that confirmed case of a rigged election happens through paper absentee ballots 3. Note that there are very few known cases of a rigged election happening through electronic voting machines. 4. One probable conclusion is that election rigging is possible and undetectable through electronic voting machines.
- r00fus 8y agoAs opposed to many potential others which were electronic and not confirmed/confirmable? Gimme the paper absentee ballot any day.
- kavalg 8y agoNot always true. Where I live, small parties have the problem of not being able to allocate sufficient resources to monitor all voting rooms. Then if it happens that only representatives of two of the biggest political parties are observing the counting, strange things can happen (e.g. the small parties not getting any votes).