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> A lot of the best statues and paintings had religious purposes, kind of like Egyptians. I think it's worth distinguishing religious works from religious tool
by Bartweiss 8y ago
> A lot of the best statues and paintings had religious purposes, kind of like Egyptians.
I think it's worth distinguishing religious works from religious tools.
As I understand it, religious works were generally made to glorify God in a cultural sense - mostly as commissioned works to make churches and cathedrals more impressive. That's substantially different than pieces with intrinsic religious significance, whether as a literal idol, a vessel for a soul, or an offering to a divinity. For instance, a relief of a Pharaoh might be considered significant while placed in a sealed tomb, even worth opening the tomb to deface, but a pietà shut up in a basement is largely irrelevant.
It's an interesting point, though, because the distinction can definitely get fuzzy. The Stations of the Cross can be performed by simply carrying a blessed cross, but it's hard to deny that the construction of actual stations is the creation of an artistic religious tool. (And of course, an archaeologist would find the stations, but not necessarily have a way to know about the practice without implements.) Rosaries and reliquaries are clearly functional art, and even devotional paintings become ambiguous when literacy and ownership of a Bible aren't standard.
I think there's still a worthwhile distinction here between artistic/instructional and instrumental works, but I'm not sure it would hold across faiths or larger time spans.
- z3phyr 8y agoIf you think it from a non-abrahmic perspective, most of the religious works were actually practical tools or stages to perform worship or sacrifices. Most of the statues were actively used for worship (albeit vanity must have played a role)
- dalbasal 8y agoAlso Abrahamic. The religion described in the bible is one centered around temple sacrifice, with very specific tools described (including the temple itself) for performing these "works," as they're referred too.
- dredmorbius 8y agoThe History of Philosophy episode on icons and iconoclasm is relevant and, as with the rest of the podcast, excellent. https://historyofphilosophy.net/iconoclasm https://historyofphilosophy.net/iconoclasm MP3 direct: https://hopwag.podbean.com/mf/play/h7m3vi/HoP_303_-_Don_t_Picture_This_-_Iconoclasm.mp3 https://hopwag.podbean.com/mf/play/h7m3vi/HoP_303_-_Don_t_Pi... I've been thinking of our recent technological fetish for digital identity and identifiers as something of a modern cult of idolatry, grounded in many of the same aims, and subject to similar failures: digital IDs are representations through which we interact with the represented, but problems arise when we mistake the icon or idol with the archetype or ideal.