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I think you underestimate the sickness of the people and culture of said people who would put people in zoos. If you can do that, you can’t put anything past t

I think you underestimate the sickness of the people and culture of said people who would put people in zoos. If you can do that, you can’t put anything past that person/culture.

fromthestart 8y ago
White man bad! I think the sickness is in our own very recent culture's push to deface historic European culture, and rationalize all sorts of interpretations of evilness by, ironically, dehumanizing Europeans, as you're doing here.
- krapp 8y ago
  But.. Europeans did put Africans into zoos and freak shows and display them, and European culture did consider them subhuman. Just study the history of Sarah Baartman, for an example. Mentioning that is neither dehumanizing nor defacing European culture, it's a statement of literal historical and cultural fact. That said, I don't really buy into the theory being presented here. I would need to see some documentary evidence supporting it first, such as a common cultural association at the time of "broad noses" with "Africans" or an attempt to portray ancient Egypt as a Caucasian society. People knew where Egypt was. The pyramids, temples and other signs of civilization were still there. Knocking the noses off of the statues wouldn't hide anything.
- novacole 8y ago
  Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Also, I never said anything about white people. I was talking specifically about the Western Europeans who put people in Zoos. I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their hearts, however...
  - fromthestart 8y ago
    >I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their hearts, however Ironic that I was pointing out that you're doing exactly this. >Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Are you even going to attempt to argue in good faith? >Also, I never said anything about white people. Of course you didn't! Then your racism would be overt. But your anti European narrative is an increasingly common one that has infested academia and is creeping into industry.
    - dang 8y ago
      We've asked you before to stop doing flamewars on HN. If you keep doing it we're going to have to ban you, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: it looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological and political battle. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop doing that too.
  - dang 8y ago
    Please don't do tedious flamewars on HN. When you get to "Putting people in Zoos is a good thing?", you've long passed the point to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I think you underestimate the sickness of the people and culture of said people who would put people in zoos. If you can do that, you can’t put anything past that person/culture.

fromthestart 8y ago

White man bad! I think the sickness is in our own very recent culture's push to deface historic European culture, and rationalize all sorts of interpretations of evilness by, ironically, dehumanizing Europeans, as you're doing here.

krapp 8y ago
But.. Europeans did put Africans into zoos and freak shows and display them, and European culture did consider them subhuman. Just study the history of Sarah Baartman, for an example. Mentioning that is neither dehumanizing nor defacing European culture, it's a statement of literal historical and cultural fact. That said, I don't really buy into the theory being presented here. I would need to see some documentary evidence supporting it first, such as a common cultural association at the time of "broad noses" with "Africans" or an attempt to portray ancient Egypt as a Caucasian society. People knew where Egypt was. The pyramids, temples and other signs of civilization were still there. Knocking the noses off of the statues wouldn't hide anything.
novacole 8y ago
Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Also, I never said anything about white people. I was talking specifically about the Western Europeans who put people in Zoos. I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their hearts, however...
- fromthestart 8y ago
  >I think your comment perfectly illustrates the lengths people will go to and the ways in which they will contort their minds in order to uphold an strange idea that is dear to their hearts, however Ironic that I was pointing out that you're doing exactly this. >Putting people in Zoos is a good thing? It dehumanizes Europeans to say that it is sick to put people in Zoos? Are you even going to attempt to argue in good faith? >Also, I never said anything about white people. Of course you didn't! Then your racism would be overt. But your anti European narrative is an increasingly common one that has infested academia and is creeping into industry.
  - dang 8y ago
    We've asked you before to stop doing flamewars on HN. If you keep doing it we're going to have to ban you, so please don't. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: it looks like you've been using HN primarily for ideological and political battle. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop doing that too.
- dang 8y ago
  Please don't do tedious flamewars on HN. When you get to "Putting people in Zoos is a good thing?", you've long passed the point to stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html