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well here are two examples with actual definitions to get you started. hopefully the guardian isn't too esoteric for you! https://www.theguardian.com/world/200
by blancheneige 8y ago
well here are two examples with actual definitions to get you started. hopefully the guardian isn't too esoteric for you!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jul/17/iraq.usa https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/jul/17/iraq.usa
>The ideologically driven network functioned like a shadow government, much of it off the official payroll and beyond congressional oversight. But it proved powerful enough to prevail in a struggle with the State Department and the CIA by establishing a justification for war.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/22/leaks-trump-deep-state-fbi-cia-michael-flynn https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/22/leaks-...
>America doesn’t have coups or tanks in the street. But a deep state of sorts exists here and it includes national security bureaucrats who use secretly collected information to shape or curb the actions of elected officials.
- duxup 8y agoBudgetary messes and administrative Independence gets out of hand... partly because congress doesn't bother to provide real oversight. But the whole "deep state" term seems to imply a great deal more. We have people here claiming the CIA is doing this to undermine the president. That's not at all backed up or necessary follows bureaucracy operating on its own.
- blancheneige 8y agoThose are nice euphemisms but giving these articles a critical read, particularly in light of the implications of the first one might do us more good than engaging in systematic and apologetic damage control
- duxup 8y ago>engaging in systematic and apologetic damage control I don't know what you mean by that.