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It absolutely is. You know who else has a license like this? hacker news. (https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/) By upload

by snek 8y ago

It absolutely is. You know who else has a license like this? hacker news. (https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/ https://www.ycombinator.com/legal/) By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed. also microsoft, google, reddit, twitter, etc, etc, etc, etc

elagost 8y ago
Hacker News is publicly viewable without an account. Totally different. Discord tricks the user into using it as a private messaging platform. Its main draw, as I understand it, is the IRC channel clones ("Servers"), which can be public or private/invite-only. It's also got no privacy or security options for the direct person-to-person messages, which people use essentially as an SMS/iMessage/WhatsApp replacement. Encrypted chat at scale is hard, but this is a relatively new product and was built in an era where privacy concerns were well known. The benefits of encryption/privacy/security etc (and drawbacks from the lack of it) are clear. I understand they need to be able to transmit the data, but they also clearly state that the developers of the product can look at your messages in cleartext. That's absolutely not required. How do you think Signal operates?
- snek 8y ago
  >Hacker News is publicly viewable without an account. Totally different. What does that have to do with needing to acquire rights to redistribute your content? >Discord tricks the user into using it as a private messaging platform. Discord doesn't advertise security at all (they do mention keeping your IP secure in some support articles but that isn't advertising) Beyond that, Discord exists to create big open public spaces. Why would you need encryption in a big open public space.
defen 8y ago
So if Y Combinator did not have those terms, I could put my own copyrighted work onto Hacker News and then sue Y Combinator? That doesn't sound right.
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- chmod775 8y ago
  You probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on with that kind of lawsuit. But when a company lets a lawyer write their TOS, they're gonna end up with a "better safe than sorry" version.

by snek 8y ago

elagost 8y ago

Hacker News is publicly viewable without an account. Totally different. Discord tricks the user into using it as a private messaging platform. Its main draw, as I understand it, is the IRC channel clones ("Servers"), which can be public or private/invite-only. It's also got no privacy or security options for the direct person-to-person messages, which people use essentially as an SMS/iMessage/WhatsApp replacement. Encrypted chat at scale is hard, but this is a relatively new product and was built in an era where privacy concerns were well known. The benefits of encryption/privacy/security etc (and drawbacks from the lack of it) are clear. I understand they need to be able to transmit the data, but they also clearly state that the developers of the product can look at your messages in cleartext. That's absolutely not required. How do you think Signal operates?

snek 8y ago
>Hacker News is publicly viewable without an account. Totally different. What does that have to do with needing to acquire rights to redistribute your content? >Discord tricks the user into using it as a private messaging platform. Discord doesn't advertise security at all (they do mention keeping your IP secure in some support articles but that isn't advertising) Beyond that, Discord exists to create big open public spaces. Why would you need encryption in a big open public space.

defen 8y ago

So if Y Combinator did not have those terms, I could put my own copyrighted work onto Hacker News and then sue Y Combinator? That doesn't sound right.

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chmod775 8y ago
You probably wouldn't have a leg to stand on with that kind of lawsuit. But when a company lets a lawyer write their TOS, they're gonna end up with a "better safe than sorry" version.