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Just to throw in another alternative: Some might know XMPP [1] for being the IETF standardized instant messaging protocol and Conversations [2] as one of the mo

Just to throw in another alternative: Some might know XMPP [1] for being the IETF standardized instant messaging protocol and Conversations [2] as one of the modern XMPP clients. Recently, the main author of Conversations created a new version of his app called 'Quicksy'. Quicksy is still an XMPP client but with the ease of use other messangers deliver. For example, you don't have to choose a provider. Yet you still have features like federation available. So a perfect solution to invite others to join the XMPP world. - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=im.quicksy.client https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=im.quicksy.cli... - https://quicksy.im https://quicksy.im [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP [2] https://conversations.im https://conversations.im

bovermyer 8y ago
I just bought the Conversations app a couple days ago. It looks like, from the Quicksy.im site, that Quicksy is meant to eventually funnel users into Conversations. I'm a little confused by this path. What would make Quicksy users go to Conversations?
- arendtio 8y ago
  Well, I think this is more like a newcomer vs. power user scenario. If you are new to XMPP, Quicksy gives you a decent messenger without requiring you to know how everything works. After a while though, you might learn that you can host your own server or use your own domain and want to do that. At that point, however, you would have to switch to Conversations as Quicksy allows only Accounts on Quicksy servers (AFAIK). Actually, I don't think the primary reason for Quicksy is to increase the sales of the Conversations app. I think it is more about to get more people in contact with the XMPP ecosystem, without asking them to pay for an app like Conversations up front. After all, the ones who are doing XMPP nowadays are fighting for the cause and not for the cash.
  - bovermyer 8y ago
    Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.
Boulth 8y ago
The only problem with XMPP is that there is no iOS app that's as good as Conversations.
- arendtio 8y ago
  It is kinda hard to be as good as Conversations ;-) But you have a point. ChatSecure [1] became usable in the last two years and Monal [2] is another young project aiming to close the iOS client gap. Nevertheless, while there are still some bugs in both clients, I am expecting that those bugs will get fixed in the next months. [1] https://chatsecure.org https://chatsecure.org [2] https://monal.im https://monal.im
  - Boulth 8y ago
    Yep. It's interesting that a paid open source app such as Conversations is available on Android and not on iOS. I thought iOS users are more likely to pay for software.

bovermyer 8y ago

I just bought the Conversations app a couple days ago. It looks like, from the Quicksy.im site, that Quicksy is meant to eventually funnel users into Conversations. I'm a little confused by this path. What would make Quicksy users go to Conversations?

arendtio 8y ago
Well, I think this is more like a newcomer vs. power user scenario. If you are new to XMPP, Quicksy gives you a decent messenger without requiring you to know how everything works. After a while though, you might learn that you can host your own server or use your own domain and want to do that. At that point, however, you would have to switch to Conversations as Quicksy allows only Accounts on Quicksy servers (AFAIK). Actually, I don't think the primary reason for Quicksy is to increase the sales of the Conversations app. I think it is more about to get more people in contact with the XMPP ecosystem, without asking them to pay for an app like Conversations up front. After all, the ones who are doing XMPP nowadays are fighting for the cause and not for the cash.
- bovermyer 8y ago
  Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification.

Boulth 8y ago

The only problem with XMPP is that there is no iOS app that's as good as Conversations.

arendtio 8y ago
It is kinda hard to be as good as Conversations ;-) But you have a point. ChatSecure [1] became usable in the last two years and Monal [2] is another young project aiming to close the iOS client gap. Nevertheless, while there are still some bugs in both clients, I am expecting that those bugs will get fixed in the next months. [1] https://chatsecure.org https://chatsecure.org [2] https://monal.im https://monal.im
- Boulth 8y ago
  Yep. It's interesting that a paid open source app such as Conversations is available on Android and not on iOS. I thought iOS users are more likely to pay for software.