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How would you propose a network select candidates for a debate?

by MichaelApproved 8y ago

Steltek 8y ago
I thought traditionally it was polling numbers. But maybe that was just the RNC clown car from 2016...
- rexaliquid 8y ago
  The DNC is using two criteria for qualifying for the debates. One is the traditional polling above 1% in three separate recognized polls. The other is a minimum number of donors (65k), with a minimum of 200 in each of 20 different states. Meeting either criteria qualifies a candidate for the debate, and should the field of qualifying candidates grow to more than twenty (gods forbid) priority is given to candidates that meet both and then by polling average.
  - everdev 8y ago
    65k donors doesn't seem like a lot especially since there's no minimum contribution. So raising $65,000 can put you on the DNC debate stage regardless of how you poll? A GoFundMe could raise more than that.
    - EpicEng 8y ago
      How easy do you imagine it is to get that many people to put their name on a list saying they want you for president?
      - everdev 8y ago
        Exponentially easier than polling 1% nationally.
        EpicEng 8y ago
        The comparison was to a random GoFundMe, not national polling. Besides, the field is limited to 20. A candidate may still have to meet the polling threshold depending on how the field does.
- beat 8y ago
  Polling numbers are great for a field of a half-dozen candidates, but much harder for a field of 20, where the average is 5%. How can you even trust the polls then? As a Democrat, I'm okay with showing a minimum number of individual donors. It shows real interest in the candidate.
- sverige 8y ago
  > the RNC clown car from 2016 As opposed to the DNC clown car from 2016 where everything about the primaries was pre-cooked by DNC insiders and their media helpers? I don't understand how any rational person can claim moral high ground for either party.
  - Angostura 8y ago
    > where everything about the primaries was pre-cooked One, maybe two things, ISTR, no?
    - sverige 8y ago
      There was no realistic chance that Bernie is any other candidate was going to get the nomination at the convention once the superdelegates were pinned down. That was settled well before the primaries were done, so if that's just one thing, it's enough. You don't even need to get to "two things" like previewing questions with the media for the debates, or purging dissenters from the DNC leadership, for example.
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      ISTR one of the things was, "Hillary will win."
dragonwriter 8y ago
Networks don't select candidates for the debates on their own, the parties at the main drivers; the DNC drove the single-tier big-stage setup for it's 2020 debates, including the ability to qualify by number of unique donors; the RNC drove the qualifications for, and two-tier “grown ups” vs. “kids table” format for it's 2016 debates.

How would you propose a network select candidates for a debate?

Steltek 8y ago

I thought traditionally it was polling numbers. But maybe that was just the RNC clown car from 2016...

rexaliquid 8y ago
The DNC is using two criteria for qualifying for the debates. One is the traditional polling above 1% in three separate recognized polls. The other is a minimum number of donors (65k), with a minimum of 200 in each of 20 different states. Meeting either criteria qualifies a candidate for the debate, and should the field of qualifying candidates grow to more than twenty (gods forbid) priority is given to candidates that meet both and then by polling average.
- everdev 8y ago
  65k donors doesn't seem like a lot especially since there's no minimum contribution. So raising $65,000 can put you on the DNC debate stage regardless of how you poll? A GoFundMe could raise more than that.
  - EpicEng 8y ago
    How easy do you imagine it is to get that many people to put their name on a list saying they want you for president?
    - everdev 8y ago
      Exponentially easier than polling 1% nationally.
      - EpicEng 8y ago
        The comparison was to a random GoFundMe, not national polling. Besides, the field is limited to 20. A candidate may still have to meet the polling threshold depending on how the field does.
beat 8y ago
Polling numbers are great for a field of a half-dozen candidates, but much harder for a field of 20, where the average is 5%. How can you even trust the polls then? As a Democrat, I'm okay with showing a minimum number of individual donors. It shows real interest in the candidate.
sverige 8y ago
> the RNC clown car from 2016 As opposed to the DNC clown car from 2016 where everything about the primaries was pre-cooked by DNC insiders and their media helpers? I don't understand how any rational person can claim moral high ground for either party.
- Angostura 8y ago
  > where everything about the primaries was pre-cooked One, maybe two things, ISTR, no?
  - sverige 8y ago
    There was no realistic chance that Bernie is any other candidate was going to get the nomination at the convention once the superdelegates were pinned down. That was settled well before the primaries were done, so if that's just one thing, it's enough. You don't even need to get to "two things" like previewing questions with the media for the debates, or purging dissenters from the DNC leadership, for example.
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    ISTR one of the things was, "Hillary will win."

dragonwriter 8y ago

Networks don't select candidates for the debates on their own, the parties at the main drivers; the DNC drove the single-tier big-stage setup for it's 2020 debates, including the ability to qualify by number of unique donors; the RNC drove the qualifications for, and two-tier “grown ups” vs. “kids table” format for it's 2016 debates.