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Godot 3.1 Released

201 points by reddotX 8y ago

harryfcallahan 8y ago
Great job:)
pkaye 8y ago
I was waiting for this.
- Kip9000 8y ago
  lot of people won't get this :D
pjmlp 8y ago
Lots of nice goodies, congratulations on the release.
rcarmo 8y ago
Reading through the OpenGL support mini-saga, I was left wondering if this can target a Metal/Vulcan/etc., since graphics stacks seem to be fragmenting again. But the new visual editors look great, and MIDI input is intriguing to me. The only downside (in terms of learning curve) for me, personally, is the proprietary scripting, since I have been put off Unity time and again because of C# (I have been writing more of it over the years, but it feels too convoluted at times) and I would rather do Lua or Python or something else both dynamic and straightforward enough...
- przmk 8y ago
  Vulkan is on the roadmap for 4.0 which should arrive in approximately one year. As for languages, you could try https://github.com/touilleMan/godot-python https://github.com/touilleMan/godot-python Godot makes it easy to write modules in various different languages such as Rust, D, C++, etc.
- mkesper 8y ago
  They seem to plan more support for optional typing, though, which I would count as a bonus vs Python et al. For Godot 3.1, optional typing is a parser-only feature. The plan is, afterwards, to include typed instructions in the state machine to greatly optimize performance.
  - rcarmo 8y ago
    Yes, and typing will help towards AOT compiling and performance, etc., but I would really like to just dive in and write code in a language I already use or that can be shared among engines (there is a lot of Lua code out there in the game dev universe, for instance). Having to learn another language (no matter how simple) for a specific runtime is the sort of time investment one should ponder carefully (I’ve written code in dozens of languages, and the learning curve until being productive matters a lot when you move across environments, frameworks and runtimes).
    - eggy 8y ago
      Use C# with Godot. I am personally looking forward to F# with Godot. GDScript is close enough to Python for me, I had no problem with if from the start, and it integrates really well with Godot.
      - babaganoosh89 8y ago
        Issue is C# is desktop only right now.
        rcarmo 8y ago
        That is an additional point I wasn't fully aware of. I've tinkered with Unity and they address every platform with every supported language. Whereas I can do some desktop animation stuff with Godot without caring much (that's one of the reasons I'm interested in MIDI support), if I were to go beyond the hobby phase I'd definitely target iOS first...
        8y ago
- babaganoosh89 8y ago
  FWIW GDScript is modeled after python. It's a good scripting language overall. The only thing clunky to me is the way they do callbacks, which they call signals. From what I read their next major goal is shipping Vulcan support.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Graphics stack never stopped being fragmented. Contrary to urban myths, OpenGL never was a thing on game consoles. Then OpenGL itself is myriad of optional extensions, driver and GPU quality issues, with around 30 years of history, which means that any GL engine is full of multiple execution paths, hardly any different from supporting multiple APIs. In any game engine, rendering code is a very tiny portion of the monolith.
- thedangler 8y ago
  If you like Lua and game dev, apparently https://www.defold.com/ https://www.defold.com/ is the bomb. I've never used it, but I'm looking into it or godot.
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eggy 8y ago
This is sick! It's eating into my Blender territory, where I may just use Godot for a whole lot more than games. CSG, animation tools, shading tools, etc. Blender is still great for modeling, animation and rendering. Godot is what I had hoped the Blender Game Engine (BGE) was going to become.
- w84death 8y ago
  Exactly this! I'm using it for demo(scene) stuff. Demos, interactive presentations, learning (and make fun) shaders.
  - fookitty 8y ago
    Very interested in getting more info about that. Do you have a demo made with Godot we could check out or a sample "shader" project?
- andyonthewings 8y ago
  Have you tried Armory3D? Look like that’s pretty well received among the Blender community.
pictur 8y ago
Is it worth learning godot for mobile game development?
- gameswithgo 8y ago
  This is really a very complex question. For what kind of game? For which mobile platforms? What is your past experience? Have you made a game before? What languages have you worked with? etc etc etc. Godot uses it's own scripting language, or C# as a second class option. Are those languages you want to work with? Would you rather make the game from scratch? Would Unity or Unreal be better? Would a framework like monogame be better? If you are just targeting IOS maybe using Swift or Objective C would be easier and perform better.
  - droptablemain 8y ago
    *Worth noting that GDScript (Godot's scripting language) is almost identical to python
    - philipov 8y ago
      It's true that GDScript is inspired by python, but I think it's a big stretch to say it's almost identical to python. You have to squint VERY hard to make such a claim, or not know anything about python. No generators, no context managers, classes are fundamentally different. The clearest similarities are also the most superficial, such as continuing to use whitespace for scope, or the 'pass' keyword for empty blocks. I like that gdscript is duck typed, but that's hardly a distinctive python feature. Overall, it's more pleasant than using C++ or C#, but it is very different from python. However, what you can do is use godot-python, a native python binding extension made after GDNative was added in 3.0. Doing this gives you the most important feature of python: access to the package ecosystem. It's not like python if I can't use libraries like scipy or tensorflow for advanced math operations.
      - droptablemain 8y ago
        I don't disagree with you. I meant in the context that someone with a passing familiarity with Python can generally jump right into GDScript and get acquainted very quickly, which reduces the learning curve.
jimmcslim 8y ago
Can anyone identify the isometric game in the screenshot at the top of this blog post... https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-1-beta-8 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-1-beta-...
- giancarlostoro 8y ago
  It is noted at the bottom of that blog post: Tanks of Freedom https://tof.p1x.in/ https://tof.p1x.in/
- Waterluvian 8y ago
  I googled "Godot isometric strategy game" and found this. I think it's right. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tanks-of-freedom-a-turnbased-isometric-classic-strategy-game-built-with-godot.5064 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tanks-of-freedom-a-tu...
- Erwin 8y ago
  Reverse image search says: https://w84death.itch.io/tanks-of-freedom https://w84death.itch.io/tanks-of-freedom
uneekname 8y ago
Ah, so that's why Google Cloud was down yesterday!
forkLding 8y ago
Using Godot 3.0 right now, Godot has been great and amazing considering its open source game engine. I'm amazed at what the developers have been able to do. Great job guys!

Godot 3.1 Released

201 points by reddotX 8y ago

harryfcallahan 8y ago

Great job:)

pkaye 8y ago

I was waiting for this.

Kip9000 8y ago
lot of people won't get this :D

pjmlp 8y ago

Lots of nice goodies, congratulations on the release.

rcarmo 8y ago

Reading through the OpenGL support mini-saga, I was left wondering if this can target a Metal/Vulcan/etc., since graphics stacks seem to be fragmenting again. But the new visual editors look great, and MIDI input is intriguing to me. The only downside (in terms of learning curve) for me, personally, is the proprietary scripting, since I have been put off Unity time and again because of C# (I have been writing more of it over the years, but it feels too convoluted at times) and I would rather do Lua or Python or something else both dynamic and straightforward enough...

przmk 8y ago
Vulkan is on the roadmap for 4.0 which should arrive in approximately one year. As for languages, you could try https://github.com/touilleMan/godot-python https://github.com/touilleMan/godot-python Godot makes it easy to write modules in various different languages such as Rust, D, C++, etc.
mkesper 8y ago
They seem to plan more support for optional typing, though, which I would count as a bonus vs Python et al. For Godot 3.1, optional typing is a parser-only feature. The plan is, afterwards, to include typed instructions in the state machine to greatly optimize performance.
- rcarmo 8y ago
  Yes, and typing will help towards AOT compiling and performance, etc., but I would really like to just dive in and write code in a language I already use or that can be shared among engines (there is a lot of Lua code out there in the game dev universe, for instance). Having to learn another language (no matter how simple) for a specific runtime is the sort of time investment one should ponder carefully (I’ve written code in dozens of languages, and the learning curve until being productive matters a lot when you move across environments, frameworks and runtimes).
  - eggy 8y ago
    Use C# with Godot. I am personally looking forward to F# with Godot. GDScript is close enough to Python for me, I had no problem with if from the start, and it integrates really well with Godot.
    - babaganoosh89 8y ago
      Issue is C# is desktop only right now.
      - rcarmo 8y ago
        That is an additional point I wasn't fully aware of. I've tinkered with Unity and they address every platform with every supported language. Whereas I can do some desktop animation stuff with Godot without caring much (that's one of the reasons I'm interested in MIDI support), if I were to go beyond the hobby phase I'd definitely target iOS first...
        8y ago
babaganoosh89 8y ago
FWIW GDScript is modeled after python. It's a good scripting language overall. The only thing clunky to me is the way they do callbacks, which they call signals. From what I read their next major goal is shipping Vulcan support.
pjmlp 8y ago
Graphics stack never stopped being fragmented. Contrary to urban myths, OpenGL never was a thing on game consoles. Then OpenGL itself is myriad of optional extensions, driver and GPU quality issues, with around 30 years of history, which means that any GL engine is full of multiple execution paths, hardly any different from supporting multiple APIs. In any game engine, rendering code is a very tiny portion of the monolith.
thedangler 8y ago
If you like Lua and game dev, apparently https://www.defold.com/ https://www.defold.com/ is the bomb. I've never used it, but I'm looking into it or godot.

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eggy 8y ago

This is sick! It's eating into my Blender territory, where I may just use Godot for a whole lot more than games. CSG, animation tools, shading tools, etc. Blender is still great for modeling, animation and rendering. Godot is what I had hoped the Blender Game Engine (BGE) was going to become.

w84death 8y ago
Exactly this! I'm using it for demo(scene) stuff. Demos, interactive presentations, learning (and make fun) shaders.
- fookitty 8y ago
  Very interested in getting more info about that. Do you have a demo made with Godot we could check out or a sample "shader" project?
andyonthewings 8y ago
Have you tried Armory3D? Look like that’s pretty well received among the Blender community.

pictur 8y ago

Is it worth learning godot for mobile game development?

gameswithgo 8y ago
This is really a very complex question. For what kind of game? For which mobile platforms? What is your past experience? Have you made a game before? What languages have you worked with? etc etc etc. Godot uses it's own scripting language, or C# as a second class option. Are those languages you want to work with? Would you rather make the game from scratch? Would Unity or Unreal be better? Would a framework like monogame be better? If you are just targeting IOS maybe using Swift or Objective C would be easier and perform better.
- droptablemain 8y ago
  *Worth noting that GDScript (Godot's scripting language) is almost identical to python
  - philipov 8y ago
    It's true that GDScript is inspired by python, but I think it's a big stretch to say it's almost identical to python. You have to squint VERY hard to make such a claim, or not know anything about python. No generators, no context managers, classes are fundamentally different. The clearest similarities are also the most superficial, such as continuing to use whitespace for scope, or the 'pass' keyword for empty blocks. I like that gdscript is duck typed, but that's hardly a distinctive python feature. Overall, it's more pleasant than using C++ or C#, but it is very different from python. However, what you can do is use godot-python, a native python binding extension made after GDNative was added in 3.0. Doing this gives you the most important feature of python: access to the package ecosystem. It's not like python if I can't use libraries like scipy or tensorflow for advanced math operations.
    - droptablemain 8y ago
      I don't disagree with you. I meant in the context that someone with a passing familiarity with Python can generally jump right into GDScript and get acquainted very quickly, which reduces the learning curve.

jimmcslim 8y ago

Can anyone identify the isometric game in the screenshot at the top of this blog post... https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-1-beta-8 https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-3-1-beta-...

giancarlostoro 8y ago
It is noted at the bottom of that blog post: Tanks of Freedom https://tof.p1x.in/ https://tof.p1x.in/
Waterluvian 8y ago
I googled "Godot isometric strategy game" and found this. I think it's right. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tanks-of-freedom-a-turnbased-isometric-classic-strategy-game-built-with-godot.5064 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/tanks-of-freedom-a-tu...
Erwin 8y ago
Reverse image search says: https://w84death.itch.io/tanks-of-freedom https://w84death.itch.io/tanks-of-freedom

uneekname 8y ago

Ah, so that's why Google Cloud was down yesterday!

forkLding 8y ago

Using Godot 3.0 right now, Godot has been great and amazing considering its open source game engine. I'm amazed at what the developers have been able to do. Great job guys!