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Can you imagine if Twitter and Google went down at the same time? People would be reactivating their Facebook accounts and having to sift through conspiracy th

Can you imagine if Twitter and Google went down at the same time? People would be reactivating their Facebook accounts and having to sift through conspiracy theory posts about Hillary Clinton still just to figure out what was going on. Edit: The points on this post keep going up and down every time I check these comments. Yes, it was sarcasm, I was joking, but I was trying to point out that most people rely on a small set of services. "Cloud" has centralized things a lot.

bargl 8y ago
I think the only reason your comment gets down voted is because it's biased only to one side. I see about what Jon Oliver states as if I remember correct 1/2 as many conspiracy posts from about Trump (Edit: I meant to write conservatives write 2x as many conspiracy posts as democrats. This was not represented in my previous sentence.). It's annoying. I guess to accurately represent things on Facebook you'd have to say something like conspiracy posts about AOC, Bernie, and Dan Chrenshaw. 2x1 Ratio. You could have also said, "political conspiracy theories". I get annoyed by conspiracies on either side personally, but I can see how some people would see more of one than the other based on their friends. Edit: Re-read some of what I wrote and I want to clarify, this isn't me saying i down-voted you. Just an observation.
- wybiral 8y ago
  It was a joke based on what people often say about FB. I don't use their platforms.
  - bargl 8y ago
    Jokes, typically hint at a truth or belief of the comedian. I'm not saying it's a bad joke, I actually liked it. I was merely making an observation which apparently a lot of people disliked, and it looks (based on the upvote/downvote feedback) I am probably wrong. It might just be because a lot of people around here read thishttp://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html and think that any joke means it's a bad comment. IDK. As I said I thought your comment was funny.
- jsgo 8y ago
  it really goes to show how different all of our feeds are based on who we are friends with (and of those, who we interact with the most). Anecdotally, I have 3 people who will share any "conservative" attack meme (at this point, I don't even know if it counts as conservative so much as just outright attacking Democrats. Sometimes it reads more like an attack for the sake of attacking than a statement of belief in something different. Kind of weird. Part of me wonders if maybe some of these accounts do conservative attacks and some do liberal attacks in an attempt to get shares and what not with no political interest whatsoever: effectively acting as an arms dealer of the meme variety.) they can get their hands on and of my friends of a more liberal view, it is mostly policy things they share (pro-choice, anti-rape, etc.). There's one dude that is pretty anti-Trump, but his for the most part stand out as an exception. Most of the ones I see referencing Trump directly (if it isn't during a period where he did something that Democrats felt was highly suspect) are more in support of him than anything. Which is why I have to refrain from taking an "over the top much?" slant when people post the pro-Trump/victim of the left type memes as I don't see a ton of attacks on him directly, but then again, their feed could be totally different from mine so who knows?
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  - bargl 8y ago
    I've got a few people in my feed who just dump on the right no matter what. I've fact checked them a little bit. Again it's about a 2-1 for me fact checking my right leaning and left leaning friends (typically older). But I keep all of them on there just to have an ear to the ground.
    - jsgo 8y ago
      Yeah, I appreciate the various view points and items shared in my feed from both conservative/liberal viewpoints have been wrong (almost consistently so). I think the real bummer is when you present the actual video of what the person says, and the response is essentially “yeah? Well, they still suck” or something in that ballpark. I have zero issue with someone not liking another person’s views, but a lot of it is just outright libel.
- adventist 8y ago
  Totally agree.
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hiei 8y ago
Gmail and other Google products went down last night. Close though. Thankfully not on Twitter or FB.
- kyrra 8y ago
  I don't believe Gmail was ever fully down. For me, I was just having problems with attachments. I also noticed app icons in the play store failing to load.
  - bshipp 8y ago
    I experienced issues with Drive last night but it was never fully down. I was trying to work on a 500GB file and the API would drop the link intermittently. I could parse the directory no problem, just couldn't reliably access the files.
    - kyrra 8y ago
      Dir layout is likely stored in a different system then large files.
  - hateful 8y ago
    Didn't they just announce shutting down Flickr or something. Plus they could be decommissioning Google+ stuff. Maybe this is related. Just a guess.
    - Buge 8y ago
      Flickr is unrelated to Google and Facebook. Flicker is owned by SmugMug, previously by Yahoo, previously by Ludicorp.
    - oarsinsync 8y ago
      You may be thinking of Picasa, which had it's EOL announced in 2016, and the web API due to be discontinued 15 March 2019 (tomorrow) Google+ APIs were shutdown 9 March 2019
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josteink 8y ago
> Can you imagine if Twitter and Google went down at the same time? Google sure, but what people in the real world cares about twitter? Twitter could be down for days and only the technocracy would notice.
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- corobo 8y ago
  Twitter is where we complain that Google is down
- chriswarbo 8y ago
  The US president? It also seems popular with journalists and media companies (e.g. TV shows asking viewers to "tweet us your questions")
pennaMan 8y ago
I'm more worried of all of it going down at the same time.
- celticninja 8y ago
  When it all goes down at the same time you should be worried. Not because of the lack of Twitter or FB or Gmail bit for what it means if it's all down.
sundvor 8y ago
People would be calling emergency hotlines..? Wait, people are doing this already: https://twitter.com/SA_SES/status/1105969450698694656 https://twitter.com/SA_SES/status/1105969450698694656
bouncycastle 8y ago
Whenever I hear when some service is down, I immediately go to that service to confirm. Then I repeatedly hit reload if it doesn't work to see if it can come up. I guess many people do the same and that may contribute to the problem...
- tyingq 8y ago
  Gmail's exponential back off, with it's visible countdown to next retry is a nice idea. Probably reduces that compounding wave of customer reloads.
- spectre256 8y ago
  Years ago I worked at a large online casual gaming company who's name ended in -ynga. Our web tier was split into two: one for serving static content required to load the HTML, Flash app, assets, etc. The other was for actual communication regarding actions taken in game. Whenever we had any sort of issue we could generally get a good idea of what was happening by looking at changes in traffic in those two web tiers. If people couldn't play for most reasons, game action traffic would drop to near zero, but the static asset tier traffic would usually at least triple. So yeah, there are a lot of F5 buttons being hit out there when pages don't load.

bargl 8y ago

I think the only reason your comment gets down voted is because it's biased only to one side. I see about what Jon Oliver states as if I remember correct 1/2 as many conspiracy posts from about Trump (Edit: I meant to write conservatives write 2x as many conspiracy posts as democrats. This was not represented in my previous sentence.). It's annoying. I guess to accurately represent things on Facebook you'd have to say something like conspiracy posts about AOC, Bernie, and Dan Chrenshaw. 2x1 Ratio. You could have also said, "political conspiracy theories". I get annoyed by conspiracies on either side personally, but I can see how some people would see more of one than the other based on their friends. Edit: Re-read some of what I wrote and I want to clarify, this isn't me saying i down-voted you. Just an observation.

wybiral 8y ago
It was a joke based on what people often say about FB. I don't use their platforms.
- bargl 8y ago
  Jokes, typically hint at a truth or belief of the comedian. I'm not saying it's a bad joke, I actually liked it. I was merely making an observation which apparently a lot of people disliked, and it looks (based on the upvote/downvote feedback) I am probably wrong. It might just be because a lot of people around here read thishttp://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html and think that any joke means it's a bad comment. IDK. As I said I thought your comment was funny.
jsgo 8y ago
it really goes to show how different all of our feeds are based on who we are friends with (and of those, who we interact with the most). Anecdotally, I have 3 people who will share any "conservative" attack meme (at this point, I don't even know if it counts as conservative so much as just outright attacking Democrats. Sometimes it reads more like an attack for the sake of attacking than a statement of belief in something different. Kind of weird. Part of me wonders if maybe some of these accounts do conservative attacks and some do liberal attacks in an attempt to get shares and what not with no political interest whatsoever: effectively acting as an arms dealer of the meme variety.) they can get their hands on and of my friends of a more liberal view, it is mostly policy things they share (pro-choice, anti-rape, etc.). There's one dude that is pretty anti-Trump, but his for the most part stand out as an exception. Most of the ones I see referencing Trump directly (if it isn't during a period where he did something that Democrats felt was highly suspect) are more in support of him than anything. Which is why I have to refrain from taking an "over the top much?" slant when people post the pro-Trump/victim of the left type memes as I don't see a ton of attacks on him directly, but then again, their feed could be totally different from mine so who knows?
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- bargl 8y ago
  I've got a few people in my feed who just dump on the right no matter what. I've fact checked them a little bit. Again it's about a 2-1 for me fact checking my right leaning and left leaning friends (typically older). But I keep all of them on there just to have an ear to the ground.
  - jsgo 8y ago
    Yeah, I appreciate the various view points and items shared in my feed from both conservative/liberal viewpoints have been wrong (almost consistently so). I think the real bummer is when you present the actual video of what the person says, and the response is essentially “yeah? Well, they still suck” or something in that ballpark. I have zero issue with someone not liking another person’s views, but a lot of it is just outright libel.
adventist 8y ago
Totally agree.

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hiei 8y ago

Gmail and other Google products went down last night. Close though. Thankfully not on Twitter or FB.

kyrra 8y ago
I don't believe Gmail was ever fully down. For me, I was just having problems with attachments. I also noticed app icons in the play store failing to load.
- bshipp 8y ago
  I experienced issues with Drive last night but it was never fully down. I was trying to work on a 500GB file and the API would drop the link intermittently. I could parse the directory no problem, just couldn't reliably access the files.
  - kyrra 8y ago
    Dir layout is likely stored in a different system then large files.
- hateful 8y ago
  Didn't they just announce shutting down Flickr or something. Plus they could be decommissioning Google+ stuff. Maybe this is related. Just a guess.
  - Buge 8y ago
    Flickr is unrelated to Google and Facebook. Flicker is owned by SmugMug, previously by Yahoo, previously by Ludicorp.
  - oarsinsync 8y ago
    You may be thinking of Picasa, which had it's EOL announced in 2016, and the web API due to be discontinued 15 March 2019 (tomorrow) Google+ APIs were shutdown 9 March 2019
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josteink 8y ago

> Can you imagine if Twitter and Google went down at the same time? Google sure, but what people in the real world cares about twitter? Twitter could be down for days and only the technocracy would notice.

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corobo 8y ago
Twitter is where we complain that Google is down
chriswarbo 8y ago
The US president? It also seems popular with journalists and media companies (e.g. TV shows asking viewers to "tweet us your questions")

pennaMan 8y ago

I'm more worried of all of it going down at the same time.

celticninja 8y ago
When it all goes down at the same time you should be worried. Not because of the lack of Twitter or FB or Gmail bit for what it means if it's all down.

sundvor 8y ago

People would be calling emergency hotlines..? Wait, people are doing this already: https://twitter.com/SA_SES/status/1105969450698694656 https://twitter.com/SA_SES/status/1105969450698694656

bouncycastle 8y ago

Whenever I hear when some service is down, I immediately go to that service to confirm. Then I repeatedly hit reload if it doesn't work to see if it can come up. I guess many people do the same and that may contribute to the problem...

tyingq 8y ago
Gmail's exponential back off, with it's visible countdown to next retry is a nice idea. Probably reduces that compounding wave of customer reloads.
spectre256 8y ago
Years ago I worked at a large online casual gaming company who's name ended in -ynga. Our web tier was split into two: one for serving static content required to load the HTML, Flash app, assets, etc. The other was for actual communication regarding actions taken in game. Whenever we had any sort of issue we could generally get a good idea of what was happening by looking at changes in traffic in those two web tiers. If people couldn't play for most reasons, game action traffic would drop to near zero, but the static asset tier traffic would usually at least triple. So yeah, there are a lot of F5 buttons being hit out there when pages don't load.