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"No access to the source code" is a seriously weird thing to note. Is this going to be like one of the existing memory-injecting/manipulating mods, with all the

"No access to the source code" is a seriously weird thing to note. Is this going to be like one of the existing memory-injecting/manipulating mods, with all the downsides that implies?

ssully 8y ago
Yeah, that's kind of weird. I think they said that to reinforce that this will be the exact same game. Thats great, but not providing the port team the source just sounds like they are trying both arms behind their back.
- lonjil 8y ago
  There is no port team. Tarn is doing all of the programming for the Steam release, and the people Kitfox hired are artists.
mont 8y ago
That is really interesting, though IIRC the dev of df doesn't use any reasonable sort of cvs, and I got the impression that the source code was essentially enough spaghetti to feed an Italian wedding.
0xffff2 8y ago
DF has long had support for graphical tile sets, and the announcement on Patreon mentions that the developers will be doing some work specifically to support the new graphics. I think that comment is there to allay any fears that this release and future releases might be burdened with any kind of functional user interface.
StrangeDoctor 8y ago
It's a roundabout way of assuring the existing community that the integrity of the simulation/game is the same as always. All of these mods are memory injection/watching, but nothing is being done to circumvent the modders.
- Filligree 8y ago
  In fact there's some work done to support them. For instance, it calls SDL_NumJoysticks once per frame to give DFHack a convenient hook location... ... ...that's my fault.
tomku 8y ago
I think they're just making it clear that Kitfox is only distributing the game and not participating in development at all. All the development (including anything necessary for adding the "official" graphics/music) is still being done by Bay12.
mlindner 8y ago
No. Tarn is modifying Dwarf Fortress to support the graphics and sound. Kitfox/graphics people will tell Tarn what they need to support the graphics/sound and he'll add it.

"No access to the source code" is a seriously weird thing to note. Is this going to be like one of the existing memory-injecting/manipulating mods, with all the downsides that implies?

ssully 8y ago

Yeah, that's kind of weird. I think they said that to reinforce that this will be the exact same game. Thats great, but not providing the port team the source just sounds like they are trying both arms behind their back.

lonjil 8y ago
There is no port team. Tarn is doing all of the programming for the Steam release, and the people Kitfox hired are artists.

mont 8y ago

That is really interesting, though IIRC the dev of df doesn't use any reasonable sort of cvs, and I got the impression that the source code was essentially enough spaghetti to feed an Italian wedding.

0xffff2 8y ago

DF has long had support for graphical tile sets, and the announcement on Patreon mentions that the developers will be doing some work specifically to support the new graphics. I think that comment is there to allay any fears that this release and future releases might be burdened with any kind of functional user interface.

StrangeDoctor 8y ago

It's a roundabout way of assuring the existing community that the integrity of the simulation/game is the same as always. All of these mods are memory injection/watching, but nothing is being done to circumvent the modders.

Filligree 8y ago
In fact there's some work done to support them. For instance, it calls SDL_NumJoysticks once per frame to give DFHack a convenient hook location... ... ...that's my fault.

tomku 8y ago

I think they're just making it clear that Kitfox is only distributing the game and not participating in development at all. All the development (including anything necessary for adding the "official" graphics/music) is still being done by Bay12.

mlindner 8y ago

No. Tarn is modifying Dwarf Fortress to support the graphics and sound. Kitfox/graphics people will tell Tarn what they need to support the graphics/sound and he'll add it.