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Canada is extremely tightly tied to the US economy, and the US government is still taking Boeing’s side on this. I wish this didn’t have to be about politics.
by nikanj 8y ago
Canada is extremely tightly tied to the US economy, and the US government is still taking Boeing’s side on this.
I wish this didn’t have to be about politics.
- simlevesque 8y agoIt's not just US/Canada relations. The biggest canadian aviation company has dozens of Max 8.
- isostatic 8y agoAir Canada have 20, about 10% of their fleet. Similar level to Norwegian. Westjet has 12 -- or 7% of their fleet.
- TheArcane 8y ago> US government is still taking Boeing’s side on this It's all fun and games until a Max 8 nosedives on US soil
- bilbo0s 8y agoIt'll still be fun and games. It's just that the game will be "CYA".
- dsfyu404ed 8y agoThe game has been "CYA" for a few days ago. Grounding the aircraft without information about the second crash is fundamentally a CYA exercise. It might be the right action to take but until we have the information we need to see if we are right or wrong it is a CYA exercise. Just because it's CYA doesn't mean it's wrong. Just because you turn out to be right later doesn't mean you didn't initially do it to CYA.
- anigbrowl 8y agoCYA generally refers to avoiding responsibility rather than a precautionary approach - one covers one's own ass (protects one's interests) while leaving everyone else exposed to risk. The EU has grounded the Max 8s, accepting the disruption to commerce and inconvenience to travelers up front as the cost of avoiding an unlikely but potentially catastrophic accident. It's possible that if this were an Airbus instead of a Boeing plane that the situation might be reversed, but I'm inclined to think they would actually take the same action in that circumstance because EU regulatory culture is rooted in a precautionary rather than a palliative approach.
- inferiorhuman 8y agohttps://www.bbc.com/news/business-47562727 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47562727
- HarryHirsch 8y agoBut it is about politics. Ted Cruz spoke out in favour of grounding the 737-MAX, presumably because Southwestern Airlines is a major operator of these misengineered deathtraps and is based in Dallas. If a pilot lost control of his place and there was a crash shortly after takeoff it would hurt his ambitions.
- peeters 8y ago> presumably because Southwestern Airlines is a major operator of these misengineered deathtraps and is based in Dallas. Or maybe, just maybe he spoke out because he chairs the senate subcommittee for aviation?
- peteretep 8y ago> Canada is extremely tightly tied to the US economy Canada also is home to one of the four major aerospace companies that make planes people are willing to fly on. Think of all the CRJ700s you could sell if people got flighty about using 737s. I'm sure the Canadians are grounding them for all the right reasons, but let's be clear: they stand to gain if the 737 loses favour.
- chrisbolt 8y agoCRJs do not compete with 737s. If the 737 loses favour, the A319/320/321 would replace it.
- inferiorhuman 8y agoThe C-series is much closer to competing with the 737/A319.
- peeters 8y agoIt's not so much about politics as process. Canada and the U.S. have a bilateral acceptance process, whereby airworthiness in one country is accepted in the other. Since the FAA was the certifying authority in this case, the default position would be to trust their process until evidence suggested otherwise. https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/international/bilateral_agreements/baa_basa_listing/media/CanadaEA.pdf https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/international/bilatera...